"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What *they* find attractive

sambwoy

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One thing I noticed is cliques that people talk about.

I notice in college culture how attractive a guy is depends on what the girl's group finds attractive, not what the individual in the group finds attractive. It still continues after the teens.

I find this so mentally and psychologically frustrating, being a guy who was bullied and then socially put down by girls and spoken down to. I used to self-harm over this stuff.

Why is this?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Women are herd creatures. They are also status/reputation obsessed, so they don't like to go against the group. Plenty of girls might secretly find some guy attractive but refuse to date him because she might be judged harshly by the group.

So they pull a " 9 0 2 1 0" and largely only hook up with "certified" guys from their group in some sort of rotation.
 

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Another way of viewing it is that women experience trust as an accelerant to intimacy. Her circle is vetted, is known, she can trust them. Therefore she can love them.

Also in a social world that is on fire with possibilities and opportunities, e.g. people to meet, places to go, groups to mingle with - its one of the most reliable filtering mechanisms, since she can fall back on the collective intelligence of the group for any given decision.

Its hard being a loner!
 

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NewJack said:
Another way of viewing it is that women experience trust as an accelerant to intimacy. Her circle is vetted, is known, she can trust them. Therefore she can love them.

Also in a social world that is on fire with possibilities and opportunities, e.g. people to meet, places to go, groups to mingle with - its one of the most reliable filtering mechanisms, since she can fall back on the collective intelligence of the group for any given decision.

Its hard being a loner!
Yes. The group can at least ensure that he's not ax murderer, so she can feel safe around him.

Another angle is that women know it is more difficult to get pumped and dumped within a social circle.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Plenty of girls might secretly find some guy attractive but refuse to date him because she might be judged harshly by the group.
That's a real gremlin of mine. It has been said on here several times that on either an individual or group basis, that if *they* aren't interested sexually you are 'not a human being'. I hate to admit it but I have become a guy who gets really surprised these days when some younger girl/girl his own age is actually nice to him. At other times I used to find them be openly critical and condescending, so the rest of the time I perhaps project sadness to others, because I cannot mentally process this behaviour.

Some won't even talk to you on the grounds that you are 'not cute enough'? Is this 'right'?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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