"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What the hell!?

Jon55

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So this girl I've been hanging out with who's pretty cool. We've been getting kinda close but we're not actually seeing each other (yet, I still haven't decided if I really want to date her or not, but I know she's really into me).

She and a friend of hers (girl) were going to this kick-back/party and I was going to meet them there. I had plans to go out of town for a week (which she already knew about, but I told her I would probably go to the party anyway). Well, I left for my trip early and didn't go.

I told her this on the phone (she called asking where I was...I kind of forgot to let her know) and she said she was really sad, telling me how I blew it, how she was starting to warm up to me but now not anymore (she said it in a kind of playful tone though). I said something like "Aw don't be mad, sorry I didn't let you know but I'll be back after the weekend". She continued acting mad/sad making me feel like I've disappointed her or something.

Anyway, I mean the girls' cool and all, but I just don't know if I really even want to date her yet, so I'm kinda indifferent about it. I mean if she is actually mad, what's she gonna do? Make out with a bunch of guys? Ignore me? Neither of those really bother me.

She's going out of town for the weekend too (driving long distance), and part of me wanted to text her saying something like "text me so I know you got in safely :)" or something, just so she feels special, but is that an afc move? Ugh, I have an afc past (and somewhat present) and it tends to speak up every now and then, and I don't know what to do sometimes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Silence is golden man. Don't give her any power.

She'll be back, don't stress over it. Take her friend and watch Indiana Jones.
 

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Rhoto said:
Silence is golden man. Don't give her any power.

She'll be back, don't stress over it. Take her friend and watch Indiana Jones.

Good point man.
 

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SilverSonnet said:
Rhoto got it right. Dont let her seethat she has any influence on your emotions or actions. Good luck ;)
Oy, thanks. I haven't spoken/texted a word since I got off the phone with her. I'll keep it that way till I see her next and be like nothings wrong. :up: Thank God for this forum and its' members.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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