"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Shocker

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Yeah, I'm in HS, but you guys are much more experienced than the guys at that board, so I thought I'd ask you.

Over the past month I've been talking casually to this girl. She acted REALLY serious about things around me, hinting for me to ask her out, going out on dates, how she wanted a relationship, I was a great guy, blah blah blah. I'm talking SERIOUS IOIs.

I made out with her a few weeks ago during school, got a kiss at a school dance that weekend and a couple more kisses in between classes in the next couple of weeks. No big deal.

Spring break started last week, so I thought I'd actually go out with her for a change. I sent her an email before I left on a 4 day trip saying that we'll be playing basketball on a weekday. I didn't want to do anything serious, just feel things out and spend time with her a little. Yes, I know emails suck, but I didn't see her at school that day and I was leaving on my trip the next day.

Anyway. The next day she sends me an email back saying that "you're a great guy and everything, but I don't want you as anything but a friend anymore...I'm not ready for a bf" blah blah.

And right now I'm thinking wtf. I have no idea what happened. How many times do you make out with a chick, have her throwing serious IOIs your way, talking about "how she can't wait till she can go out with me" etc. and then tell you she just wants to be friends?

I don't particularly care especially about this girl, but I'm really off balance right now because I don't understand what happened. Mostly I want to figure that out...

P.S. She used to have a crush on my friend last year. He basically turned her down. She told me she was completely over him, but he asked her about us kissing at the dance last week, the day before she gave me the LJBF...so I don't know...maybe she was just putting on an act the entire time just to make him jealous? I dunno...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Vypros

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there is another guy in the picture.

Plain and simple.

Whether it's your friend or not, is up in the air, but I garauntee you there is another guy in the picture.
 

The Shocker

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My first guess too. Thanks bro.
 

TruthHurts

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Vypros said:
there is another guy in the picture.

Plain and simple.
On the money!!!! :)


also.. you should have been trying to take her panties of not kissing her..

should have sealed the deal quicker and started giving her a mental check...

anyways... dont think or anazlize about it.. just move on...

Man i remember in highschool everyone would date people from other high school cause lack of experience how to handle things in house...

anyways,,if i was in highschool now, things would have been a little different.. so much young wanting to experiment pssey...just haven man... do it on the swings man hahaha :)
 

The Shocker

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LOL...it was at school dude. I wasn't about to rip off her panties in the hallway.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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