"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What should I say?

WingHead

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Before, I mentioned a girl that came into my class one day. I haven't seen her since, but I know she's a cheerleader, so she's bound to be at the football games.

Anyways, I guess what I'm gonna do is go to a game and try and find her, then just ask her out. I figure since I never see her anyways, getting rejected won't be too big a problem.

I just don't know what I should say. So I came to you guys. Thanks. :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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noodle

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Have you even spoken to this girl yet?

if not...you have no chance of getting a date with her.
You have to build up to it man, can't just dive in there. Imagine how akward it would be for her if some random guy shes never met askes her out. Of course shes going to say no!
 

Vice

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Chat her up for a bit, and if she's more than good looks and seems like she's someone you want to spend more time with, get her number and ask her out later on.
 

WingHead

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No, I've never talked to her. (Never had a chance to.)

So, I guess I'll just go to a game and if I see her, should I say something like "great job out there tonight."? Then I can introduce myself and like you said, Vice, chat her up and if I think things went well should I ask for a number? Or just say something like "maybe we can talk again sometime."? Then ask for a number probably the next time [at the next game], and once I have the number, then ask her out?

Does that sound good to you guys? :)
 

intrextrovert

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Well, tbh i'd chat her up a bit next time i see her or after a football game or something, open with a you did pretty good or something. Probably end with a maybe we can talk another time or if it goes particularly well get # and set up something soon.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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SinJester

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It's good that your thinking to ask out instead of trying to become friends first. Still in high school I would at least make sure you know her a bit by talking to her a few times first.
 
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