"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What openers do you usually use?

Eternal_water

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Other than "HI"

how do you start the conversation, and when you do use "HI........" what do you follow up the high with?

If you ca remember any examples of openers that worked well that would be great
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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TheMale

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really often i use situation.
commenting on something happening around us, if i need an information etc.

the 'hi' opener, i dont have a great experience with that, so i cant tell you how to take it further.
and BTW i'm looking for it too cause i wanna use it ! :)
 

ilikecharlene

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Anything open-ended, as long as it's not deemed societally offensive.

If she's in class, ask her how she finds it or the lecturer. if it's at work, ask her how long she's been there. if it's in the gym, ask her how often she goes there.
 

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ilikecharlene said:
Anything open-ended, as long as it's not deemed societally offensive.

If she's in class, ask her how she finds it or the lecturer. if it's at work, ask her how long she's been there. if it's in the gym, ask her how often she goes there.

Agreed!

Context clues are often the easiest ways to initiate a conversation. Observe the environment, and ask an open-ended question about it. No need for anything fancy, though if you are the witty/funny type, that works very well too, especially if you can make 'em laugh....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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