"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What openers do you usually use?

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Eternal_water

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Other than "HI"

how do you start the conversation, and when you do use "HI........" what do you follow up the high with?

If you ca remember any examples of openers that worked well that would be great
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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really often i use situation.
commenting on something happening around us, if i need an information etc.

the 'hi' opener, i dont have a great experience with that, so i cant tell you how to take it further.
and BTW i'm looking for it too cause i wanna use it ! :)
 
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Anything open-ended, as long as it's not deemed societally offensive.

If she's in class, ask her how she finds it or the lecturer. if it's at work, ask her how long she's been there. if it's in the gym, ask her how often she goes there.
 
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ilikecharlene said:
Anything open-ended, as long as it's not deemed societally offensive.

If she's in class, ask her how she finds it or the lecturer. if it's at work, ask her how long she's been there. if it's in the gym, ask her how often she goes there.
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Agreed!

Context clues are often the easiest ways to initiate a conversation. Observe the environment, and ask an open-ended question about it. No need for anything fancy, though if you are the witty/funny type, that works very well too, especially if you can make 'em laugh....
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

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