What made you MGTOW?

[gwoppin]

To those who would put themselves in the category of Men Going Their Own way, what was the reason?

Not why you stay as one now, but at the time, what was your reasoning and has it played out the way you would have hoped it would?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I have a MGTOW friend. He got divorce r@ped.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I have a MGTOW friend. He got divorce r@ped.

Likely due to a poor screening process. 90% of the time it's due to poor screening. Men should be holding themselves accountable for this and stop blaming others.

The uncomfortable truth nobody wants to acknowledge.

 

[Manure Spherian]

To those who would put themselves in the category of Men Going Their Own way, what was the reason?

Not why you stay as one now, but at the time, what was your reasoning and has it played out the way you would have hoped it would?

I don’t even know it Mgtow is real considering most MGTOW’s want women.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Back in the Game is right, it’s probably due to a bad screening process man. Just because you got screwed over, doesn’t mean you should give up on women. There’s plenty of choices of decent women you can meet overseas or places in The US were minority women comes in large numbers. Look at me, Im still here in South East Asia, Im coming back home for Christmas in South Texas to probably indulge in Mexican food, chinese buffets and traditional Latina women baby lol If you’re not digging the women in your area, I suggest your ass for long ass vacation somewhere in The Pacific and have a blast or take a long drive to a Conservative city near you.

 

[inquisitor]

Screening better is part of why dudes learn all this relationship-related stuff in the first place.

If you don't learn how to screen for what you want, then what's the point of everything else that follows?

 

[Vanderdonck]

MGTOW is weird to me. They sure spend a lot of time talking and organizing about how they don't care about women.

 

[Silver Surfer]

To those who would put themselves in the category of Men Going Their Own way, what was the reason?

I see your question was never answered directly so I’ll do it. At the time, I went MGTOW due to frustration with the behavior of women. MGTOW allowed me to step away for a while and study my game. Women are women. It is what it is. It’s part of the game. I locked in on self mastery, reading, learning and listening. Health and wealth.

Fast forward, I’ll jump into Monk Mode for time-to-time but it’s motivated by achieving personal goals (not women).

 

[Vanderdonck]

I see your question was never answered directly so I’ll do it. At the time, I went MGTOW due to frustration with the behavior of women. MGTOW allowed me to step away for a while and study my game. Women are women. It is what it is. It’s part of the game. I locked in on self mastery, reading, learning and listening. Health and wealth.

Fast forward, I’ll jump into Monk Mode for time-to-time but it’s motivated by achieving personal goals (not women).

So if you're done with women why are you posting on Sosuave?

 

[Divorced w 3]

So if you're done with women why are you posting on Sosuave?

Touché

 

[CornbreadFed]

I agree with @Manure Spherian, most MGTOW men are just crybabies with victim mindsets. If you actually want to be MGTOW then I welcome that. However, MGTOW isn’t constantly complaining about women every day while wasting away in some third-world country. That’s just being a loser.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Screening better is part of why dudes learn all this relationship-related stuff in the first place.

If you don't learn how to screen for what you want, then what's the point of everything else that follows?

All too often men screen with their d!ck even when their brain knows they should dump and run...essentially their d!ck's screening process overrides their brain's screening process...

This works for recreational use but anything more than that and that's how men end up in deep trouble and financial ruin.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I agree with @Manure Spherian, most MGTOW men are just crybabies with victim mindsets. If you actually want to be MGTOW then I welcome that. However, MGTOW isn’t constantly complaining about women every day while wasting away in some third-world country. That’s just being a loser.

Yep there are entire forums built by/for them. Imagine spending so much time and energy on something you ostensibly left behind and don't care about. I don't eat liver but I'm not on an "I hate liver" forum.

 

[Gamisch]

Well the problem is that MGTOW is a poor alternative. As I said ij my recent thread, the blue pill is making a great comeback as it is FORCED down men throats .

The bluepill is making a great comeback...

And it makes sense. 90% of men are inherently bluepilled. Even over here. That 90% is too big of a number to NOT make a huge impact on the overall vibe surrounding dating. 90% of men are bluepilled while 65% doesn't play along. But most of them are tired of RP rethoric. The redpill been...

www.sosuave.net

Even sosauve does this. Hear me out: CGA promotes what he call " the free agent lifestyle " BUT when you try to ELI5 this it will be understood as tricking. And even sosauve prohibited talking about tricking. So even the most die hard seduction community goes lalalalala when the subject is pay for play. Crazy work,as it are ESPECIALLY high status men who prefer to.pay for play because..they have an abundance of money rather than an abundance of time and energy.

But again, even here we say that a " real man" can't lead with money, while simultaneously more and more women straight up say they have a price tag ( OF, semi legal prostitution, sugar daddies, women straight up asking for diner dates ect)

So men box themselves in from all angles, while women free themselves more and more. If I "oblige by the forum rules " I can offer a struggling man two solutions: MGTOW or being a bluepilled beta bytch .yeah yeah I know that the " Tupac with a degree" purple pill is the ideal choice ( arguably) ,but that by itself completely disregards the role that (modern) women play in a of this..

My third solution might indeed be make a REAL calculation to how much money it costs you, how much energy and effort and wether you might be better off by actually paying for play.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Well the problem is that MGTOW is a poor alternative. As I said ij my recent thread, the blue pill is making a great comeback as it is FORCED down men throats .

The bluepill is making a great comeback...

And it makes sense. 90% of men are inherently bluepilled. Even over here. That 90% is too big of a number to NOT make a huge impact on the overall vibe surrounding dating. 90% of men are bluepilled while 65% doesn't play along. But most of them are tired of RP rethoric. The redpill been...

www.sosuave.net

Even sosauve does this. Hear me out: CGA promotes what he call " the free agent lifestyle " BUT when you try to ELI5 this it will be understood as tricking. And even sosauve prohibited talking about tricking. So even the most die hard seduction community goes lalalalala when the subject is pay for play. Crazy work,as it are ESPECIALLY high status men who prefer to.pay for play because..they have an abundance of money rather than an abundance of time and energy.

But again, even here we say that a " real man" can't lead with money, while simultaneously more and more women straight up say they have a price tag ( OF, semi legal prostitution, sugar daddies, women straight up asking for diner dates ect)

So men box themselves in from all angles, while women free themselves more and more. If I "oblige by the forum rules " I can offer a struggling man two solutions: MGTOW or being a bluepilled beta bytch .yeah yeah I know that the " Tupac with a degree" purple pill is the ideal choice ( arguably) ,but that by itself completely disregards the role that (modern) women play in a of this..

My third solution might indeed be make a REAL calculation to how much money it costs you, how much energy and effort and wether you might be better off by actually paying for play.

Agree if you're loaded and busy then paying high priced "companions" makes the most sense. I'd do that if I were in that boat.

They say you don't pay for sex, you pay them to leave afterward, lol.

 

[Gamisch]

Agree if you're loaded and busy then paying high priced "companions" makes the most sense. I'd do that if I were in that boat.

They say you don't pay for sex, you pay them to leave afterward, lol.

Homeboy had to pay 20 K (!!!) to get his "wife"( forced marriage) over to Europe. Other homeboy needs to pay his Pina gf hundreds per month because..yeah, he has more buying power with his Euro. Let alone getting her over here..

Having a kid cost you up to millions in 18 + years.

Lawsuits, the complete marriage, the fall out. Dating regularly costs you at least 50 bucks just to sit across a woman.

And finally, IF you position yourself to make money 24 hours per day , a woman will DISTRACT you willingly, not caring about your bag bit rather about HER "feewings" and DEMAND you give up money making opportunities to spend time with her. ( trust me I know)

Modern dating very soon becomes like Klarna: buy now pay later with interest. We should at very least analyse the truth and separate feelings from said truth so we can make an honest judgement.

 

[Silver Surfer]

So if you're done with women why are you posting on Sosuave?

So if you're done with women why are you posting on Sosuave?

Please quote where I said I’m done with women.

 

[The Duke]

I see your question was never answered directly so I’ll do it. At the time, I went MGTOW due to frustration with the behavior of women. MGTOW allowed me to step away for a while and study my game. Women are women. It is what it is. It’s part of the game. I locked in on self mastery, reading, learning and listening. Health and wealth.

Fast forward, I’ll jump into Monk Mode for time-to-time but it’s motivated by achieving personal goals (not women).

So are you any better at understanding women post MGTOW?

 

[inquisitor]

All too often men screen with their d!ck even when their brain knows they should dump and run...essentially their d!ck's screening process overrides their brain's screening process...

This works for recreational use but anything more than that and that's how men end up in deep trouble and financial ruin.

Great insight.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Please quote where I said I’m done with women.

No. Sounds like you did monk mode, not MGTOW. I misunderstood.