"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What I've Learned While SS was Down

Bible_Belt

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#1 - It's not easy to find another DJ discussion. Women would agree that most guys don't "get it." But for the DJs who do, they are a minority among men. So discussing women with most men is a waste of time. You get afc feedback.

#2 - "Next" is the right way even if it does not seem so at the time, or even if you never see the girl again. You will be surprised at who calls you back with renewed interest after you next them.

#3 - Much like in trading stocks, techniques work the same way even if you apply them to different timeframes. A pickup method that is condensed into a plan for one evening can work just as well if you spread the same techniques over days or even weeks. For example, Mystery's freeze-out when a girl behaves poorly, which punishes her by withdrawing your attention, will work equally well when the freeze-out is a few days instead of a few minutes.

#4 - You know a technique works when you use it successfully without even thinking about it at the time, maybe even by accident. With no intention of flirting, I was harassing a HB waitress in good fun about the restaurant changing its menu, and she was loving it. In retrospect, that is a David D C&F technique.

#5 - Be the man, lead the way. Either you are the DJ she lays or the suckup AFC to whom she complains about the DJ she lays. Even if you lead the way to a firm "no," then next and move on right away. There is a decent chance that she will come back, but even if not, she will still respect you more for being a man than for being a wuss afc tolerating her sh!t.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Nighthawk

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Good points all, especially 1, 2 & 5.

I learnt that HB10s with a heart of gold are rare, but they're there. Consequently I am now out of the game and very happy about it.
 
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