The "genuinely good man" and the "player" http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=142178
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The "genuinely good man" and the "player"
There’s 2 different ways to attract women.
The first way..and the most difficult..abeit most rewarding way…is to be the best man that you can be. That means that you excel in everything that you can. Any weakness that you see within yourself, you push yourself so hard to constantly improve and become a better man.
Work at it step-by-step.
What’s important is that there’s progress!
If women see that you’re trying, that you’re trying to be something…they’ll start to see you in a new light.
It doesn’t have to be all at once.
What’s important is that you’re doing your best and that there’s progress.
Think to yourself, “What are 5 things that I need to improve and change?”
And work to improve in them…In other words, as long as women see that you’re trying to go at a certain goal, they can sense your determination, drive and ambition.
That’s the first way.
Then there’s the second way. The path of a player.
Do you know why players succeed?
It’s because players fool women.
Players don’t try to be the “best in life” or “be all that”. But they make women believe that.
Remember the wording I used.
They make women believe it.
What only matters is if the woman thinks that you are the right man.
Let’s face it.
What happens if you get the “player” and put him in front of a woman…and tell him to not flirt with other women in front of her….
The woman thinks this “player” is the perfect man.
And the truth is, he’s not. He just knows to flaunt it and act like it.
The woman is confused, because he’s not a “nice guy”. In other words, the “player” isn’t a doormat.
But the “player” isn’t a jerk either. He doesn’t talk down to women. He plays with her affectionately.
And a woman will have some difficulty finding the difference between the “genuinely good man” and the “player”.
You’ll find that there are a lot of us…who haven’t necessarily become “better men”.
We just got better at “acting” that way.
And I guess…..does it really matter…if you get the same results?
What I’m trying to really get across is that the “player” acts like the “good man” and this sometimes throws women off.
Let’s look at an example of how the “player” thinks and how the “genuinely good guy” thinks.
1. The player thinks of canned lines and funny and ****y lines to use to say to a woman.
2. The “genuinely good man” knows how to talk. He has taught himself to TALK.
End result: The woman thinks that the “player” is a funny and charismatic
guy. The woman also thinks that the genuinely good man is also a funny and charismatic guy.
The difference being that the “genuinely good man” is legit. He has trained himself and excelled in social mastery..whereas the “player” did not.
Let’s look at another situation. The playground.
1. The player approaches as many women as he can. For in his mind, the player with the most rejections is the one with the most phone numbers.
2. The “genuinely good man” doesn’t care so much about approaching a million women, but rather looks for a “genuinely good woman”. In other words, he knows and realizes that the “genuinely good woman” is not going to be some half-drunk floozy woman at a club. The “genuinely good men” realizes that there’s more to women than just sex, that there’s more to them than that.
So what is the point that I’m trying to get across?
There’s one major problem with the “game”.
It won’t last.
Do you know why we have such terrible advice on “long term relationships”?
It’s because they don’t last long.
Nobody reaches that point.
They think, “Oh no! that’s oneits. I’m too manly for that!”
What a sad, sad misconception…for thinking like that will get you the women that you deserve…
A stupid and irrational woman who’s full of emotional baggage and has no respect for herself and vents that all upon you.
What an empty life.
Let me say it again.
The problem with the “game” and “playing games” is that they don’t last long.
The reason why we have such terrible advice on long-term relationships, is that these “player rules” are tailored for the quick lay. They don’t teach you to go for a woman of substance.
What happens when you play games with a woman?
It won’t last long.
Women aren’t that stupid.
They’ll be able to tell if you’re a fake, a player or anything like that….after some time.
Quote:
Become a genuine and respectful person yourself and seek to attract the same in a romantic partner. You can't game genuineness, it is either there or it isn't.
So what’s the point of my blabbering?
My point is this. I used to think the same way as most of you guys.
I used to think that women were stupid, irrational, dumb, drama and only good for fuking…that oneitis was for chumps.
For it is man..who chooses the angel with the heart of a demon.
And one day I grew up and stopped acting like the “player”.
And instead, I strived to become a “genuinely good man”.
And what I found was this. When I worked on becoming a better man and not so much on acting like it, I attracted the “right girl”, the “genuinely good woman”.
Believe me, they’re out there.
But they don’t go for players.
__________________
A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once- 2Pac
I HOLLER. THEY FOLLER.
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Last edited by KillaPetehog : 04-02-2008 at 02:41 AM.
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Here's some interesting points from another forum..
“The attributes of “genuinely good guys” are often mirrored by players and dirt balls because they know showing you what you want to see in order to get what they want.”
“A GOOD player is selective, which is what makes it more difficult to distinguish him from a good guy. A player is too much, too soon, too fast.”
“Genuine just means that he is honest with himself. A player is neither here nor there when discussing honesty. ”
“I agree that a good player is sometimes difficult to distinguish, from men who have hearts and souls. If you aren't able to distinguish right away, time always tells. No one can keep up an act forever.”
“Yes you can tell the difference between the “genuinely good man” and the “player”, but unfortunately, only after you've had the misfortune of some dealings with a couple of them. Once you have been run over by one or two, you can see them coming a mile away.”
“Time will tell, everybody can be fooled at first, but after a while the player will tire or give up his act, whereas the good guy stays the same.”
“I can only speak for the "players" I've encountered. They were all talk and no action.”
“The mask slips eventually. Human beings can't help being themselves usually.”
“A player will be a good guy to begin with, then his house of cards will start to slide when maintaining the charade is too much.”
“Players rarely settle down. They either pretend to, or fool themselves into believing they can. Most often, they will fail unless they make a serious choice to change themselves by changing the strong "NEED" for external validation of who they are. In essence, they learn how to self-validate. Good MEN are honest, or at least try to be.”
“No girl can offer enough to a real player. Playing women is a game, which provides a player with a fix, to alleviate his neediness.”
"A player lies and manipulates, to attain his end goal, which is usually getting into the girl's pants. The Good Man attracts women without hurting them."
"The player plays with women like they are toys. He plays with his toy. Then he throws it away and gets another one. This is different from the "genuinely good guy".
I thought it was rather interesting....
__________________
A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once- 2Pac
I HOLLER. THEY FOLLER.
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Last edited by KillaPetehog : 04-02-2008 at 11:36 PM.
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The "genuinely good man" and the "player"
There’s 2 different ways to attract women.
The first way..and the most difficult..abeit most rewarding way…is to be the best man that you can be. That means that you excel in everything that you can. Any weakness that you see within yourself, you push yourself so hard to constantly improve and become a better man.
Work at it step-by-step.
What’s important is that there’s progress!
If women see that you’re trying, that you’re trying to be something…they’ll start to see you in a new light.
It doesn’t have to be all at once.
What’s important is that you’re doing your best and that there’s progress.
Think to yourself, “What are 5 things that I need to improve and change?”
And work to improve in them…In other words, as long as women see that you’re trying to go at a certain goal, they can sense your determination, drive and ambition.
That’s the first way.
Then there’s the second way. The path of a player.
Do you know why players succeed?
It’s because players fool women.
Players don’t try to be the “best in life” or “be all that”. But they make women believe that.
Remember the wording I used.
They make women believe it.
What only matters is if the woman thinks that you are the right man.
Let’s face it.
What happens if you get the “player” and put him in front of a woman…and tell him to not flirt with other women in front of her….
The woman thinks this “player” is the perfect man.
And the truth is, he’s not. He just knows to flaunt it and act like it.
The woman is confused, because he’s not a “nice guy”. In other words, the “player” isn’t a doormat.
But the “player” isn’t a jerk either. He doesn’t talk down to women. He plays with her affectionately.
And a woman will have some difficulty finding the difference between the “genuinely good man” and the “player”.
You’ll find that there are a lot of us…who haven’t necessarily become “better men”.
We just got better at “acting” that way.
And I guess…..does it really matter…if you get the same results?
What I’m trying to really get across is that the “player” acts like the “good man” and this sometimes throws women off.
Let’s look at an example of how the “player” thinks and how the “genuinely good guy” thinks.
1. The player thinks of canned lines and funny and ****y lines to use to say to a woman.
2. The “genuinely good man” knows how to talk. He has taught himself to TALK.
End result: The woman thinks that the “player” is a funny and charismatic
guy. The woman also thinks that the genuinely good man is also a funny and charismatic guy.
The difference being that the “genuinely good man” is legit. He has trained himself and excelled in social mastery..whereas the “player” did not.
Let’s look at another situation. The playground.
1. The player approaches as many women as he can. For in his mind, the player with the most rejections is the one with the most phone numbers.
2. The “genuinely good man” doesn’t care so much about approaching a million women, but rather looks for a “genuinely good woman”. In other words, he knows and realizes that the “genuinely good woman” is not going to be some half-drunk floozy woman at a club. The “genuinely good men” realizes that there’s more to women than just sex, that there’s more to them than that.
So what is the point that I’m trying to get across?
There’s one major problem with the “game”.
It won’t last.
Do you know why we have such terrible advice on “long term relationships”?
It’s because they don’t last long.
Nobody reaches that point.
They think, “Oh no! that’s oneits. I’m too manly for that!”
What a sad, sad misconception…for thinking like that will get you the women that you deserve…
A stupid and irrational woman who’s full of emotional baggage and has no respect for herself and vents that all upon you.
What an empty life.
Let me say it again.
The problem with the “game” and “playing games” is that they don’t last long.
The reason why we have such terrible advice on long-term relationships, is that these “player rules” are tailored for the quick lay. They don’t teach you to go for a woman of substance.
What happens when you play games with a woman?
It won’t last long.
Women aren’t that stupid.
They’ll be able to tell if you’re a fake, a player or anything like that….after some time.
Quote:
Become a genuine and respectful person yourself and seek to attract the same in a romantic partner. You can't game genuineness, it is either there or it isn't.
So what’s the point of my blabbering?
My point is this. I used to think the same way as most of you guys.
I used to think that women were stupid, irrational, dumb, drama and only good for fuking…that oneitis was for chumps.
For it is man..who chooses the angel with the heart of a demon.
And one day I grew up and stopped acting like the “player”.
And instead, I strived to become a “genuinely good man”.
And what I found was this. When I worked on becoming a better man and not so much on acting like it, I attracted the “right girl”, the “genuinely good woman”.
Believe me, they’re out there.
But they don’t go for players.
__________________
A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once- 2Pac
I HOLLER. THEY FOLLER.
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Last edited by KillaPetehog : 04-02-2008 at 02:41 AM.
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Here's some interesting points from another forum..
“The attributes of “genuinely good guys” are often mirrored by players and dirt balls because they know showing you what you want to see in order to get what they want.”
“A GOOD player is selective, which is what makes it more difficult to distinguish him from a good guy. A player is too much, too soon, too fast.”
“Genuine just means that he is honest with himself. A player is neither here nor there when discussing honesty. ”
“I agree that a good player is sometimes difficult to distinguish, from men who have hearts and souls. If you aren't able to distinguish right away, time always tells. No one can keep up an act forever.”
“Yes you can tell the difference between the “genuinely good man” and the “player”, but unfortunately, only after you've had the misfortune of some dealings with a couple of them. Once you have been run over by one or two, you can see them coming a mile away.”
“Time will tell, everybody can be fooled at first, but after a while the player will tire or give up his act, whereas the good guy stays the same.”
“I can only speak for the "players" I've encountered. They were all talk and no action.”
“The mask slips eventually. Human beings can't help being themselves usually.”
“A player will be a good guy to begin with, then his house of cards will start to slide when maintaining the charade is too much.”
“Players rarely settle down. They either pretend to, or fool themselves into believing they can. Most often, they will fail unless they make a serious choice to change themselves by changing the strong "NEED" for external validation of who they are. In essence, they learn how to self-validate. Good MEN are honest, or at least try to be.”
“No girl can offer enough to a real player. Playing women is a game, which provides a player with a fix, to alleviate his neediness.”
"A player lies and manipulates, to attain his end goal, which is usually getting into the girl's pants. The Good Man attracts women without hurting them."
"The player plays with women like they are toys. He plays with his toy. Then he throws it away and gets another one. This is different from the "genuinely good guy".
I thought it was rather interesting....
__________________
A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once- 2Pac
I HOLLER. THEY FOLLER.
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Last edited by KillaPetehog : 04-02-2008 at 11:36 PM.