You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
dude you are 21 years old. grow some hair on your nutts before making sweeping generalizations about what you will or will not doLeopold said:Marriage? What is that? That is NEVER going to happen!!!
No way in hell I'm going to jeopardize my goals and accomplishments with the possibility of a divorce.
A ceremony would be fine and dandy if I can afford that luxury in the future but as for now.. NO WAY IN HELL!!!
You want marriage? Guess what? It starts right now as soon as you enter a relationship with me.
EDIT: Marriage in my book is like the red flag of "buy her love".
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
1. becuase i can.backbreaker: congrats ! you right, if you find the right chick, so it'll be once in a lifetime, but why did you took the risk of paying so much, without knowing if it'll last for all your life ?
another question, why did you decide give up this freedom and the possibility to fvck a lot of chicks and decided to have just one ??
[well, I liked her alot, and while she was okay being with me, she's always wanted to be married. she was willing to not be married, at least on the outside, but everytime something would happen, and we got into an argument, it all came back to her being scared i was going to leave her for someone else. my wife is a few years older than me too.
so as long as we were not married there would be this 800 pound gurllia in the room. Not only that, she really is a catch.. 34 years old, still wears a size 3 pants and can jog 5 miles quite easily everyday, great in bed, no feminist BS, smart as a whip, very down to earth, no real baggage.. she's the type of woman that if I wasn't ready to marry her someone else would without hesitation. So I came to the conclusion that it was not realistic for me to think we would live together for ever and never be married, especially with her being 34 years old (32 at the time i proposed) and her being in the downward of her prime.
She never came out and said it,. but she didn't have to. The last big time argument we got into, when she stalked me because of the messages i had on my phone only to find out i was meeting my assistant lol, told me clear as day this couldn't go on for ever like this and that if we were to be together if I really wanted to keep h er in my life we would have to be married.
I had the exact same viewpoint.. I just didn't see the benefits, but as I got oldwer I realized that wasn't a very realistic viewpoint long term. Let me rephrease.. I akin it to breeding thoroughbred horses.
IF you know anything about breeding thoroughbreds you know that the really good sires, can and do easily command 6 figures per breeding. So if I have a mare and I want to bred to say, Tapit, I have to cough up $125k just so my mare can get fvcked by Tapit which takes all of 1 mintue. Not all sires are this expensive, but there are some. \
Every year when the sire prices come out, you will hear everyone bellyhooiong about how they will never pay this much to breed to a sire, and they make a point beucase, whenj you look at the numbers, it's just not realistic. A thoroughbred cost a little bit around $3k a monthy to keep in trainig in california, so that's 36k just to have a thoroughbred in training. Plus the 125k you spent to breed for this horse. Not including keeping the horse at a farm when he's born, breaking the horse, any additional traveling or vet bills you are at.
So with a horse like that, you are easiliy 300k in the hole before your high priced horse ever steps foot on a race track. lol, IF he steps foot on the race track. About 1/3rd of the horses that are born evrey year nefver step foot on the track for one reason or the other.
Very few horses will make 300k in their lifetime. Let's say this horse I paid for, could run a little. wasn't a super star or anything but had a little run. He won a maiden, won an allowance, came in 2-3rd in some non graded stakes, then as he got older I had to drop him into a claiming race where he was clamed off me for 40k. That might be around 160k-200k right there, maybe if you are lucky.
To win 300k and all the money come to you, you have to basically be a graded stakes caliber horse. And less than 1% of all horses born every year are that.
so basically what I am saying is, you are virtually guaranteed to lose money. So everyone says that these breeders are raping the horse owners.
but here is the thing. lol, the people who own tapit and announced he was booked for 125k in November, are over booked 1 month later and are turning away clients. They announced in november his fee, already a full book of 110-120 or so mares.
People who want to win big tine races will happily pony up the money because he produces big time race horses. Also and this is getting into the more techncal aspects of horse racing, but owners of really good mares (Female horses), that are really high class, will bred to really high class sires like tapit to 1. have very classy female babies or 2. to have a 7 figure or close to 7 figure yearling int he sales, so even though they are spending 125k to bred, they might make 800k off the sale at the end of the day becuase of the class of the mare combined...too much info lol) or that can win the kentucky derby the breeders cup, etc. He's that calibur of sire. Not all of his horses do, but him and a few others produce world class calbiur race horses at a higher clip than most sires.
What those breeders who are complaining do not realize, as did I realize when I was 22-23 years old, hell 24-25 years old, is that the catch/desired object, has the ability to dictate terms. Because if you don't pay them, there will be a line of people behind you that will.
If you are hell bent against marriage, you will be dealing with left overs for the vast majority of your life. All the catches want to get married and because they are serious catch hes, they will and probably marry well, because they are catches. There is no world where these HB9's are walking around with great credit, down to earth, no baggage that are just dying to shack up with you for the rest of your life with no ring lol. There is no world where Megyn Kelly isn't going to get married if she doesn't want to. Dude if megyn kelly, lol with her 2 kids got divorced tomororw there would be a line of rich dudes around time square camping out to date her out. Spinning plates, should be a process to determine a who is LTR material, not a life style IMHO.
I by no means am saying you should drop everything the second you see a decent looking woman. But if you find a woman that is honestly worth keeping around, you are an idiot if you don't think there is a line of guys that won't quickly put a ring on her finger if you won't. and she knows this. My wife knows she is attractive, and she's a brit too and it just drive guys (like me) crazy with that accent. If i broke up with her tomorrow she would probably have a date by new year's, and would probalby find someone suitable for her within a year or 2 at most, no doubt in my mind, if that's what she wants. And because I honestly love her and see the benefits of having her around, we compliment each other quite well, I wanted to do what i had to do to keep her around.
IN my perfect world she would hate the idea of marriage, but the world is not perfect. If I didn't, the alternative would be the fighting over trust /commitment happening to the point, where she found another guy who was suitable that would marry her and she would leave and while I'm ***** whipped or antyhing, letting a girl who passed every plate spin, **** test, and spending 3 years with me with flying colors, the mother of my son, and woman who I trust with my own life and who crazy about, walk because I wouldn't sign a marriage document, is pretty silly IMHO.
just to clarify, we kinda harp on this idea about being an alpha male and the imagery that comes with that is like a cave man with the leopard skin robe and the club going around just beating people out with the helpless woman back at the cave, but in reality, there is a fine line, between being alpha/DJ and being too arrogant.
what i mean is, just beucdase YOU are a catch, doesn't' mean your GF ISN'T.
both of you want what you want. in a unbalanced relationship, the one who needs the other the least is going to get the bulk of the "stuff". this is AFCism at it's nature. IN a healthy relationship, you learn to compromise on somethings but stand steadfast on others. Some things some parties aren't going to be willing to compromise on, the things they hold the most important, for instance, I HATE to be questioned/having a woman all in my grill every hour of the day. I have to have my space, even under the same roof. That's just how I'm wired. I lived alone my entire life, it's what I am used to. She doesn't give me any flak about it and while we spend our time together, she gives me my space. doesn't complain when I just up and leave, she knows how I tick. That's always going to be me. Nor am I going to go "get regular job". I marriage for women is one of those things.
so we are sitting at the negoationing table of life, and she says okay buddy, i value marriage and you value eing able to live out your dreams and ambitions to the fuillest withhout having someone telling you to do what normal people do. I will be more thanm willing to let udo whatever you want and supoprt you fully, take care of the house and our son, fvck your brains out and look good doing it, and do it all happily, if you will marry me. Dude WTF are you seriously going to object to that?
I have come to the conclusion that Nutz point of view (not picking on nutz at all), that it depends on what your relationship goals are is a logical fallacy because it starts off making a false premise. What I mean by that is, he is assuming that he has a check list of what he wants to accomplish before he meets the girl, when in reality, you don't (or aren't supposed to) know what you want out of a relationship utnil you actually meet said girl and she shows you what she is able to provide. some women might only e able to provide adequate b ooty calls. some migght be good for taking out a few times a week and spending the night with, nothing more. some might be okay for a good 1-2 month relationship where you f each others brains otu but you both move on. some might not be good for anything.
To go further, what I am getting getting at is, no one, well i'm not going to say no one, a lot of people do, but, how can I say this... you aren't supposed to go on dates or hook up with women with exceptions pre set. You don't' know when you are going to settle down, you will settle down when you meet someone worth settling down with. that might be next week it might be 12 years from now, but when you actually meet that person and you screen her property, your feelings towards her will shift as will your mindset towards LTR's.
I have said this many times.. I didn't plan on getting married. hell truth be told I didn't plan on having a LTR. my wife was so much better than the other plates I was spinning, i had to stop spinning other plates, because it was pointless. why spin time with vastly inferior (in my mind) plates? her overall package and behavior, lead me to the conclusion that I wanted a LTR with her.
lol i'm not a pyhysic I don't know that. but i would not have married her if i thought honestly she would. we dated for a few years before I proposed and she never gave me the slightest hint as to being unfaithful.more seriously, how do you know she'll not sleep with someone else ?
No, never been married. I certainly could have been but it would have been a train wreck with BPD ex. She wanted to get married 5-7 months into the relationship.TheMale said:equilibrium: how old are you ?!!!
i don't know for the US army, but when you see it in movie, all the soldier (USA army) are rarely at home, they are in iraq, they are in missions, but not often at home, even if they are married.
i did army but it sucks for married people, maybe here it's that way, but friends of mine who were married, could see their wife only the WE, and some of them only a WE of 2,3 and the payement, like a basic salary outside the army, the minimum.
The_411: yeah it's expensive but it's once in a lifetime (assuming you married the right one) and you want it to be memorable, with your friends, your family, her friends and family. even if it's 20-40k, it may worth it.
i'm not married but that's how people do it since ever (i mean since money started i'm not talking about the ice age ! ;p)
are you married 411 ?
guys, what is the right chick to marry for you ?
EDIT:
another question: everyone saying, you need to stay a mystery, a challenge for her, even after years of marriage ? how can it actually getting into action ? how can you stay a challenge or mystery even after you're marry ?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.