"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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What is UP with the "masturbation discussion" in the Archive?

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It's the longest thread in the history of sosuave, and every time I peak into it, I get this creepy chill under my skin.

There is just something weird, something wrong, something very UN-don-juanish about a bunch of guys celebrating how long they can go without masturbation.

I can not see guys who rejoice about this kind of thing, or who make not masturbating some kind of goal, I cannot see girls being attracted to that......

From what I know, girls are always attracted to cool suave guys who go with the flow, guys who do not analyze "not masturbating" in a cult-like fashion. It just rubs me the wrong way to see this kind of excitement arise from not masturbating.

Seeing things like "I haven't jacked it in 3 weeks I am soooo cool" creeps me out quite honestly, cuz no player or don juan would in their right mind ever THINK or TALK like that.

I don't know what is wrong with the sex drives those guys in that discussion are having, but they have some serious creepy weird things going on in their heads - me personall, I can jack off happily 4 times and still have plenty left fo f*ck the hell out of some girl 2 or 3 times later that night (just an example)

Creepy stuff you guys are talking about on that discussion, those kind of mindsets will NOT get you laid by hot chicks. There is not a single guy out there who gets hotties on a consistent basis that even THINKS about "how many days can he go without masturbating".

you guys who are doing that, need to stop doing that NOW and man the f*ck up, and start acting and thinking like a MAN
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It would be different if they said "I haven't masterbated in weeks but I get laid every three days". You feel me? I mean who needs to beat off when your getting served?

I would imagine the point of not jacking it is to force you to go out and find "relief" with a real woman instead of porn.
 
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Warrior74 said:
I would imagine the point of not jacking it is to force you to go out and find "relief" with a real woman instead of porn.

yea, and I'm assuming most of them are not getting anything from real women
 

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How am I to know you are getting any from real woman? If you masturbate four times a day, the smart money says you are experiencing a pretty severe drought.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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All the reasons for not masturbating are complete bs except for the extra motivation of having to get out of your comfort zone and find women. Good for you is not masturbating does it... Why not cut out something less sexually frustrating like TV instead though? If you're one of those people who actually can put the whole "no masturbation" thing to good use, enjoy... Otherwise why do that to yourself? Don't tell me there's more to it than that unless you have relevant proof.

If anything, I masturbate more often when I'm getting a lot of sex. I _think_ it's because I become more more sexually minded. BUT I'm not going to state that as fact. Some of you no-masturbation guys could learn from this: 99% of you don't have any hard fact to back yourself up on the more ridiculous claims of your method. 0.9% of you are trying to make connections between a few articles and your very limited knowledge of physiology. I reserve the remaining 0.1 just in case a specialist proponent of no-masturbation lurks here. If so, the guy's been playing real dumb.

It should be "I was social today. I made connections today."
NOT "I didn't masturbate today"

And let me say again, if it's the motivation you need psychologically, all the power to you. But don't kid yourself with anything beyond that.
 

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Hey, you keep that up and you'll go blind!

...we all know masturbating is perfectly healthy, the only reason to go without doing it or to do it excessively is ironically the same reason, usually a competition of some sort is involved. The act itself is just something we all do, some more than others, and some for different reasons, I personally find I almost never masturbate when I'm my most sexually active. It is, however, always a good platform for a joke or otherwise light-hearted discussion that all guys can relate to, and you sir (poster above me, and op) should not be attempting to make it any more of a big deal than that.

"90% of all guys masturbate, the other ten percent - no arms." - Richard Jeni
 

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The real question is: why do you (the OP) keep reading a thread about guys masturbating?

I know it's there and it's SS longest thread but I've never had the curiousity to check it out.
 

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Jitterbug said:
I know it's there and it's SS longest thread but I've never had the curiousity to check it out.
I've never checked it out either. Personally,I consider Jayer's 100 Approach Journal to be Sosuave's longest running thread. That masterbation thread in the archives is a MERGED THREAD,meaning it's two or more threads merged together,or at least that's what i think merged meant. I give the nod to Jayer because it was his thread that inspired me to become a member here.
 
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I still dont understand all of the patting on the back for not jerking off for weeks and months, because the only patting on the back in my opinion should be when guys are getting laid, not when guys are not jerking off

it all seems funny to me thats all i can say
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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The Logical Player said:
I still dont understand all of the patting on the back for not jerking off for weeks and months, because the only patting on the back in my opinion should be when guys are getting laid, not when guys are not jerking off

it all seems funny to me thats all i can say
Resisting the urge to masturbate is tough already, so he got the pat on the back.
 

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This thread reads like a womans support group bashing a man they can't have.

It's so easy to tell who is a chronic masturbater who has never gone a day without it.
 
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Mandiblard said:
This thread reads like a womans support group bashing a man they can't have.

It's so easy to tell who is a chronic masturbater who has never gone a day without it.
yes thats me

but i dont need to go a day without it

i can have sex in the morning, jack off 3 times during the day, then f*ck the hell out of the same girl later that night, and repeat that the next day

you guys need to stop hiding under a rock and learn to embrace your sexual side
 

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Aren't lot of the guys who post in there are high school kids?

You can't expect high school kids who've just discovered this site in their youth to start acting like cool suave guys...
 

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LP, quit being such a fvcking nazi. You want everyone here to think exactly like you. and do everything just like you do. Who the fvck are you to judge people for wanting to quit jerkin off? Have you walked in their shoes? Maybe they have a reason for it, and if you cant respect the fact that they're giving up an addiction for whatever reasons they see fit, then you are a total douchebag. I could NEVER quit jerkin off, and I have the utmost respect for people who can. Do you make fun of people who go to AA, because YOU can drink every day without consequence? Maybe I should start smoking again, just because YOU haven't got lung cancer yet.

This is the same thing as every one of your posts telling people they shouldnt have a girlfriend, just cuz you dont. Oh, yeah, you just lie, and manipulate girls into thinking you are their boyfriend, and wont be in a relationship cuz you're too much of a pvssy to deal with potential heartbreak. And you think you are a real man? Please.

I've been reading your posts since day one, and I've held my thoughts on how much of a retard you really are, but now I'm letting it out. Noone cares about your opinion if you havent noticed yet, so why dont you STFU, already.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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horaholic said:
LP, quit being such a fvcking nazi. You want everyone here to think exactly like you. and do everything just like you do. Who the fvck are you to judge people for wanting to quit jerkin off? Have you walked in their shoes? Maybe they have a reason for it, and if you cant respect the fact that they're giving up an addiction for whatever reasons they see fit, then you are a total douchebag. I could NEVER quit jerkin off, and I have the utmost respect for people who can. Do you make fun of people who go to AA, because YOU can drink every day without consequence? Maybe I should start smoking again, just because YOU haven't got lung cancer yet.

This is the same thing as every one of your posts telling people they shouldnt have a girlfriend, just cuz you dont. Oh, yeah, you just lie, and manipulate girls into thinking you are their boyfriend, and wont be in a relationship cuz you're too much of a pvssy to deal with potential heartbreak. And you think you are a real man? Please.

I've been reading your posts since day one, and I've held my thoughts on how much of a retard you really are, but now I'm letting it out. Noone cares about your opinion if you havent noticed yet, so why dont you STFU, already.
my advice is pretty damn valid, because it is based on life experience, and YES, the problems that all of these guys have with their "guuurlfriends" can all be solved if they stopped committing themselves to these girls in the first place

also, if you think im a retard, then I guess you think Player Supreme, Tom Leykis, Gunwitch, and David X are retards - in which case, YOU are the one who isn't seeing clearly
 

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The Logical Player said:
"guuurlfriends"
I don't mind your posts playa, but any chance you can stop using this? It's really stupid and lowers any credibility you may or may not be trying to establish. Not to mention it's childish and annoying.
 
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I don't mind your posts playa, but any chance you can stop using this? It's really stupid and lowers any credibility you may or may not be trying to establish. Not to mention it's childish and annoying.

I only write it like that to emphasize the p*ssyness of having one........just picture how it would sound out loud when you read it
 

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I agree its lame as hell to pat someone on the back for not jerking off for a few weeks. It really doesn't matter how much you jerk off as long as you have enough energy to last you later. I bet some idiot is going to post the benefits of not jerking off.
 

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The Logical Player said:
also, if you think im a retard, then I guess you think Player Supreme, Tom Leykis, Gunwitch, and David X are retards - in which case, YOU are the one who isn't seeing clearly
Not one of those people try to shove their beliefs down your throat. People come to them for advice, and they give it. They dont come to you telling you how you need to live your life. And, they dont tell you it's lame to stop jerkin off. Personally, I dont want to hear about, or think about other dudes jerkin off, but they have a reason to quit, and are posting on here for support, not to brag, and think they deserve a medal. If they feel they are bettering themselves by quitting the chicken-choking, then, good for them. How can you talk shyt about that? What business is it of yours? Are they hurting anyone? Are they trolling the forum? They are committing themselves to a personal challenge, and they should be commended for that, whether you agree with it or not.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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