"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What is UP with the "masturbation discussion" in the Archive?

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It's the longest thread in the history of sosuave, and every time I peak into it, I get this creepy chill under my skin.

There is just something weird, something wrong, something very UN-don-juanish about a bunch of guys celebrating how long they can go without masturbation.

I can not see guys who rejoice about this kind of thing, or who make not masturbating some kind of goal, I cannot see girls being attracted to that......

From what I know, girls are always attracted to cool suave guys who go with the flow, guys who do not analyze "not masturbating" in a cult-like fashion. It just rubs me the wrong way to see this kind of excitement arise from not masturbating.

Seeing things like "I haven't jacked it in 3 weeks I am soooo cool" creeps me out quite honestly, cuz no player or don juan would in their right mind ever THINK or TALK like that.

I don't know what is wrong with the sex drives those guys in that discussion are having, but they have some serious creepy weird things going on in their heads - me personall, I can jack off happily 4 times and still have plenty left fo f*ck the hell out of some girl 2 or 3 times later that night (just an example)

Creepy stuff you guys are talking about on that discussion, those kind of mindsets will NOT get you laid by hot chicks. There is not a single guy out there who gets hotties on a consistent basis that even THINKS about "how many days can he go without masturbating".

you guys who are doing that, need to stop doing that NOW and man the f*ck up, and start acting and thinking like a MAN
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It would be different if they said "I haven't masterbated in weeks but I get laid every three days". You feel me? I mean who needs to beat off when your getting served?

I would imagine the point of not jacking it is to force you to go out and find "relief" with a real woman instead of porn.
 
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Warrior74 said:
I would imagine the point of not jacking it is to force you to go out and find "relief" with a real woman instead of porn.

yea, and I'm assuming most of them are not getting anything from real women
 

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How am I to know you are getting any from real woman? If you masturbate four times a day, the smart money says you are experiencing a pretty severe drought.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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All the reasons for not masturbating are complete bs except for the extra motivation of having to get out of your comfort zone and find women. Good for you is not masturbating does it... Why not cut out something less sexually frustrating like TV instead though? If you're one of those people who actually can put the whole "no masturbation" thing to good use, enjoy... Otherwise why do that to yourself? Don't tell me there's more to it than that unless you have relevant proof.

If anything, I masturbate more often when I'm getting a lot of sex. I _think_ it's because I become more more sexually minded. BUT I'm not going to state that as fact. Some of you no-masturbation guys could learn from this: 99% of you don't have any hard fact to back yourself up on the more ridiculous claims of your method. 0.9% of you are trying to make connections between a few articles and your very limited knowledge of physiology. I reserve the remaining 0.1 just in case a specialist proponent of no-masturbation lurks here. If so, the guy's been playing real dumb.

It should be "I was social today. I made connections today."
NOT "I didn't masturbate today"

And let me say again, if it's the motivation you need psychologically, all the power to you. But don't kid yourself with anything beyond that.
 

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Hey, you keep that up and you'll go blind!

...we all know masturbating is perfectly healthy, the only reason to go without doing it or to do it excessively is ironically the same reason, usually a competition of some sort is involved. The act itself is just something we all do, some more than others, and some for different reasons, I personally find I almost never masturbate when I'm my most sexually active. It is, however, always a good platform for a joke or otherwise light-hearted discussion that all guys can relate to, and you sir (poster above me, and op) should not be attempting to make it any more of a big deal than that.

"90% of all guys masturbate, the other ten percent - no arms." - Richard Jeni
 

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The real question is: why do you (the OP) keep reading a thread about guys masturbating?

I know it's there and it's SS longest thread but I've never had the curiousity to check it out.
 

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Jitterbug said:
I know it's there and it's SS longest thread but I've never had the curiousity to check it out.
I've never checked it out either. Personally,I consider Jayer's 100 Approach Journal to be Sosuave's longest running thread. That masterbation thread in the archives is a MERGED THREAD,meaning it's two or more threads merged together,or at least that's what i think merged meant. I give the nod to Jayer because it was his thread that inspired me to become a member here.
 
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I still dont understand all of the patting on the back for not jerking off for weeks and months, because the only patting on the back in my opinion should be when guys are getting laid, not when guys are not jerking off

it all seems funny to me thats all i can say
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Logical Player said:
I still dont understand all of the patting on the back for not jerking off for weeks and months, because the only patting on the back in my opinion should be when guys are getting laid, not when guys are not jerking off

it all seems funny to me thats all i can say
Resisting the urge to masturbate is tough already, so he got the pat on the back.
 

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This thread reads like a womans support group bashing a man they can't have.

It's so easy to tell who is a chronic masturbater who has never gone a day without it.
 
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Mandiblard said:
This thread reads like a womans support group bashing a man they can't have.

It's so easy to tell who is a chronic masturbater who has never gone a day without it.
yes thats me

but i dont need to go a day without it

i can have sex in the morning, jack off 3 times during the day, then f*ck the hell out of the same girl later that night, and repeat that the next day

you guys need to stop hiding under a rock and learn to embrace your sexual side
 

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Aren't lot of the guys who post in there are high school kids?

You can't expect high school kids who've just discovered this site in their youth to start acting like cool suave guys...
 

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LP, quit being such a fvcking nazi. You want everyone here to think exactly like you. and do everything just like you do. Who the fvck are you to judge people for wanting to quit jerkin off? Have you walked in their shoes? Maybe they have a reason for it, and if you cant respect the fact that they're giving up an addiction for whatever reasons they see fit, then you are a total douchebag. I could NEVER quit jerkin off, and I have the utmost respect for people who can. Do you make fun of people who go to AA, because YOU can drink every day without consequence? Maybe I should start smoking again, just because YOU haven't got lung cancer yet.

This is the same thing as every one of your posts telling people they shouldnt have a girlfriend, just cuz you dont. Oh, yeah, you just lie, and manipulate girls into thinking you are their boyfriend, and wont be in a relationship cuz you're too much of a pvssy to deal with potential heartbreak. And you think you are a real man? Please.

I've been reading your posts since day one, and I've held my thoughts on how much of a retard you really are, but now I'm letting it out. Noone cares about your opinion if you havent noticed yet, so why dont you STFU, already.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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horaholic said:
LP, quit being such a fvcking nazi. You want everyone here to think exactly like you. and do everything just like you do. Who the fvck are you to judge people for wanting to quit jerkin off? Have you walked in their shoes? Maybe they have a reason for it, and if you cant respect the fact that they're giving up an addiction for whatever reasons they see fit, then you are a total douchebag. I could NEVER quit jerkin off, and I have the utmost respect for people who can. Do you make fun of people who go to AA, because YOU can drink every day without consequence? Maybe I should start smoking again, just because YOU haven't got lung cancer yet.

This is the same thing as every one of your posts telling people they shouldnt have a girlfriend, just cuz you dont. Oh, yeah, you just lie, and manipulate girls into thinking you are their boyfriend, and wont be in a relationship cuz you're too much of a pvssy to deal with potential heartbreak. And you think you are a real man? Please.

I've been reading your posts since day one, and I've held my thoughts on how much of a retard you really are, but now I'm letting it out. Noone cares about your opinion if you havent noticed yet, so why dont you STFU, already.
my advice is pretty damn valid, because it is based on life experience, and YES, the problems that all of these guys have with their "guuurlfriends" can all be solved if they stopped committing themselves to these girls in the first place

also, if you think im a retard, then I guess you think Player Supreme, Tom Leykis, Gunwitch, and David X are retards - in which case, YOU are the one who isn't seeing clearly
 

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The Logical Player said:
"guuurlfriends"
I don't mind your posts playa, but any chance you can stop using this? It's really stupid and lowers any credibility you may or may not be trying to establish. Not to mention it's childish and annoying.
 
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I don't mind your posts playa, but any chance you can stop using this? It's really stupid and lowers any credibility you may or may not be trying to establish. Not to mention it's childish and annoying.

I only write it like that to emphasize the p*ssyness of having one........just picture how it would sound out loud when you read it
 

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I agree its lame as hell to pat someone on the back for not jerking off for a few weeks. It really doesn't matter how much you jerk off as long as you have enough energy to last you later. I bet some idiot is going to post the benefits of not jerking off.
 

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The Logical Player said:
also, if you think im a retard, then I guess you think Player Supreme, Tom Leykis, Gunwitch, and David X are retards - in which case, YOU are the one who isn't seeing clearly
Not one of those people try to shove their beliefs down your throat. People come to them for advice, and they give it. They dont come to you telling you how you need to live your life. And, they dont tell you it's lame to stop jerkin off. Personally, I dont want to hear about, or think about other dudes jerkin off, but they have a reason to quit, and are posting on here for support, not to brag, and think they deserve a medal. If they feel they are bettering themselves by quitting the chicken-choking, then, good for them. How can you talk shyt about that? What business is it of yours? Are they hurting anyone? Are they trolling the forum? They are committing themselves to a personal challenge, and they should be commended for that, whether you agree with it or not.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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