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What is the true nature of females : Misanthropic vs cooperative

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hmmm, I see the great risk.

Funny-peculiar that the example of the OnlyFans/Instagram thing is an example of her wh0ring herself out. Isn't there payments on onlyfans and sponsored $ posts on instagram?

Firstly, why do women show so little selflove and secondly, if she truly was the man's only woman, what made her think he was cheating/building a harem/toxic masculinity?

If she believed it was merely possessiveness how would that have been the impetus to go show disrespect for herself with the onlyfans/instagram sellouts?





Possessiveness is what a woman wants a man to display....as long as its the monogamous kind....not the building a harem kind of possessiveness of each concubine.
Your woman will go along with your reality as long as she respects and admires you, but her devotion is primarily to her tribe/herd (which is Government & Society). As long as these things are in sync, then there's no issues within your relationship. The issues form when you have to isolate your woman from society because society's message is not in sync with the messages you are giving her within the confines of your relationship. Your woman is then caught between 2 worlds - your message "don't be a wh0re", and society's message "being a wh0re is empowering and awesome!" Your woman has a conformist mindset (like all women) and can't compute society's self-destructive message to women. Her impulse and drive to follow the herd is much, much stronger because women have evolved, over thousands of years, to follow the directives of the Herd.

Modern women's evolutionary survival instincts have basically been hacked by the top men to make her sexually available to them (if needed), along with all women. There are other motives to this social engineering too (destruction of the family, atomisation of people for easier control, lowering birthrates via feminism/family planning etc).
 

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Date the women who show a high interest in YOU, ignore the rest.
The wall comes for them all, and reality hits home. If you focus on you, your career, making money, investing, and never settling for a woman's whose desires and needs don't match yours, you can't go wrong.
Waiting for a woman to hit the wall so that she wakes up to her own delusions is a pyrrhic victory for men. By the time she has hit the Wall it's already far too late - she has become a sexually useless Cat Lady with a thousand c0ck stare and a heart full of resentment. This doesn't help any man who has been waiting for her to wake up so he can wife her up.
 

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Women are , for the most part, herd animals. If asked a question, they look at their girlfriends while answering to see if the answer they give meets their social circle's approval. If they see disapproval, their answer changes mid-stream. They are followers.

They are far more susceptible to media programming (ie The View) , social engineering, and the opinions/approval of their female friends. More easily brainwashed. Scared to swim against the tide.

So if society continually drums into their head :

You are fantastic
You deserve the best
You are better than men
You can have it all!!!!
Who needs a man!!
etc......

They fall for it. Hook line and sinker. I don't think all women hate men. i DO think, they believe they are "all that and a bag of chips" because society and all their friends tell them this.

Not all women. Their are a few exceptions, and if you can find one, good for you.

Neither sex is necessarily better....just very different.

Date the women who show a high interest in YOU, ignore the rest.
The wall comes for them all, and reality hits home. If you focus on you, your career, making money, investing, and never settling for a woman's whose desires and needs don't match yours, you can't go wrong.
This is also the reason why 99% of inventions are male, despite females having an identical IQ

Males are willing to risk public humiliation and societal backlash

Imagine the laughable idea of flight, for example, before aeroplanes
 

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Your woman will go along with your reality as long as she respects and admires you, but her devotion is primarily to her tribe/herd (which is Government & Society). As long as these things are in sync, then there's no issues within your relationship. The issues form when you have to isolate your woman from society because society's message is not in sync with the messages you are giving her within the confines of your relationship. Your woman is then caught between 2 worlds - your message "don't be a wh0re", and society's message "being a wh0re is empowering and awesome!" Your woman has a conformist mindset (like all women) and can't compute society's self-destructive message to women. Her impulse and drive to follow the herd is much, much stronger because women have evolved, over thousands of years, to follow the directives of the Herd.

Modern women's evolutionary survival instincts have basically been hacked by the top men to make her sexually available to them (if needed), along with all women. There are other motives to this social engineering too (destruction of the family, atomisation of people for easier control, lowering birthrates via feminism/family planning etc).
I firmly believe if a woman hasn't reproduced by age 22 then she shouldn't.....eggs are too dam old after that.
 

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I firmly believe if a woman hasn't reproduced by age 22 then she shouldn't.....eggs are too dam old after that.
Lynx you are a male poster right? I think there was a female poster with a similar name.
 

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Lynx you are a male poster right? I think there was a female poster with a similar name.
no, female, but starting to believe that I permanently think like a man. It is what it is.
 

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If you focus on you, your career, making money, investing, and never settling for a woman's whose desires and needs don't match yours, you can't go wrong.
Even if a woman‘s desire matches a man’s, he should never settle. Once a man settles with a man and she knows he can’t go anywhere, there is NO reason her to care about him anymore. This is also why men should never get commit or married. If they do, they can never leave without financial, emotional, and legal consequences,

Back in the day commitment used to make sense when a woman stayed at home and man went to get resources. It was her dependency on a man that made her loyal, submissive, sexy. Now that a woman is entitled to get those resources and more and she is no longer dependent on a man, she no longer needs to be loyal and submissive. Mix in the fact that public opinion and the courts almost always side with the woman, a man would have crazy to legally commit to one women.

Men, if you want a woman to stick around, you have to make her dependent on you. Love and trust and even sex is not dependency.
 

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The true nature of females is hypergamy.

Problem solved. Thread closed. (Just kidding!)
 

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I stopped worrying about "the nature of women" some time ago. I only concern myself with how the woman in front of me is comporting herself at the moment, and just go from there. Actually, that's a lie. My concern is with how I comport myself. She can get on board or not, her choice.
 

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I just rediscovered this interesting story. So in the Judeo- Christian mythology there is a character called Lilith. There are two creation stories in Genesis and some theorize that Lilith is Adams first wife. In the myth, Lilith refuses to lie under Adam during sex. She wanted to be on top and claimed that they were equal.

Lilith defies Adam's leadership and runs away. She then refuses to return to Adam when God requests she return to him. Lilith becomes a dark figure that consorts and creates demons. Unbridled sexuality is her power and she steals the life force of infants while they sleep. She is also said to be a succubus that drains the sexual energy of men.

I dont think this myth is literal but it does answer my original question. This myth represents the dualistic nature of the feminine. Eve is a woman that chooses submission to the male ( even when she makes a big mistake). Eve also represents sexual temperence. Lilith represents total rebellion against male guidance. Lilith also represents sexual promiscuity and *****dom.

So within every woman there is a struggle. Each woman has an Eve and a Lilith inside her. Both are her nature. The culture that the female is raised in will determine which archetype she expresses.
 

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I stopped worrying about "the nature of women" some time ago. I only concern myself with how the woman in front of me is comporting herself at the moment, and just go from there. Actually, that's a lie. My concern is with how I comport myself. She can get on board or not, her choice.
Aren't you then dismissing female patterns? e.g. high notch count?
 

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I just rediscovered this interesting story. So in the Judeo- Christian mythology there is a character called Lilith. There are two creation stories in Genesis and some theorize that Lilith is Adams first wife. In the myth, Lilith refuses to lie under Adam during sex. She wanted to be on top and claimed that they were equal.

Lilith defies Adam's leadership and runs away. She then refuses to return to Adam when God requests she return to him. Lilith becomes a dark figure that consorts and creates demons. Unbridled sexuality is her power and she steals the life force of infants while they sleep. She is also said to be a succubus that drains the sexual energy of men.

I dont think this myth is literal but it does answer my original question. This myth represents the dualistic nature of the feminine. Eve is a woman that chooses submission to the male ( even when she makes a big mistake). Eve also represents sexual temperence. Lilith represents total rebellion against male guidance. Lilith also represents sexual promiscuity and *****dom.

So within every woman there is a struggle. Each woman has an Eve and a Lilith inside her. Both are her nature. The culture that the female is raised in will determine which archetype she expresses.
Expresses... or is superficially forced to conform to against her true will. You have to keep in mind that different individuals, whether male or female, have different behavioral genetics. This means they innately bend toward different archetypes, and so their culture is not an all-encompassing influence. Rather we could only give them the facts and wisdom teachings to make informed choices. After that... all you can hope for is that like will go with like, and that human nature and the perils of the world will not screw it up too badly.

No culture could fix human nature...
 
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Aren't you then dismissing female patterns? e.g. high notch count?
Fair question. I can read that stuff a mile away anymore. I'm not dismissing it, it's just not a concern. Like I said, it's more about my actions. I think a lot of men here spend a lot of time ruminating on the "true nature of women," myself included in the past, but now I just don't care.
 

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You have to keep in mind that different individuals, whether male or female, have different behavioral genetics. This means they innately bend toward different archetypes, and so their culture is not an all-encompassing influence.
Very true. Sometimes I over generalize. Genetics is huge.
 

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This topic is important because it changes the way we view feminism's power grab. Men tend to view women as victims of a destructive ideology. Some men view feminism as orchestrated by a few social elites. They believe the women are just misguided victims swept up in the wave of feminist ideology.

This assumption may be false. Feminism's power grab was inevitable. Women were not misguided. They welcomed it fully because it resonated with their inner Lilith. They are not misguided victims that dont know the perils of feminism. They love it. They want to rebel against men because they envy men ( much like Lilith envied Adam). They know exactly what they are doing. They also know that feminism is not about equality. Its about domination.

Maybe the battle has always been between men vs women. This may be the meaning of life. I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. What if men are put in this reality in order to conquer their sex drive aka women. Most human suffering can be traced back to a mans interaction with a woman. Adam not taming Eve or Adams failing to tame Lilith. So many Bible stories are dedicated to warning men of the dangers of women and lust.

Men are unbelievably powerful when they are able to transmute their sexual energy. When they control the women around them. Look how weak they are when they are unable to control their sexuality. It brings down kingdoms. Look at the destruction of the West. We failed to submit Lilith and Eve and now the Western democracies are finished. The battle may be between male and female. If men control their sexuality they control women. If men control women they can have thriving civilizations. Liberation Y did a video on this that got me thinking.

 

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Fair question. I can read that stuff a mile away anymore. I'm not dismissing it, it's just not a concern. Like I said, it's more about my actions. I think a lot of men here spend a lot of time ruminating on the "true nature of women," myself included in the past, but now I just don't care.
Yeh I agree bro. I still like to dip my toe into the " true nature of women" pool every once in a while.
 

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They fall for it. Hook line and sinker. I don't think all women hate men. i DO think, they believe they are "all that and a bag of chips" because society and all their friends tell them this.
Now maybe they dont hate men. But what if they are secretly resentful of men? A part of them wants to have dominion over men. They take full advantage of any opportunity to exercise any leverage against men. This may be why women show no mercy to weak men. They WILL destroy you fully if they have the power. Ask any man in divorce court. Ask any man that had his woman get a promotion and suddenly she makes more money than him. Her attitude does a 180 degree shift. Ive had experiences where my girl was marginally better than me at some athletic endeavor ( mainly because I was injured) and she loved the temporary leverage over me. This may be why women bosses are so over the top.

I am not saying you are incorrect. I tend to agree with you but I am becoming open to the Lilith idea. Your ideology is more like Eve. Eve was a victim that was persuaded against her own interest ( serpent aka feminism). Lilith was a rebel that resented having to be submissive. Maybe both are part of their nature. Maybe it varies from female to female. The Eve type chicks are the ones that do stupid sh*t but can be molded. The Lilth types are the ones that regardless of culture will secretly want to dominate you. The only reason they dont is because their culture suppresses that proclivity.
 

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Modern women's evolutionary survival instincts have basically been hacked by the top men to make her sexually available to them (if needed), along with all women. There are other motives to this social engineering too (destruction of the family, atomisation of people for easier control, lowering birthrates via feminism/family planning etc).
What if they were not hacked. What if they had this in them all along. They just got the backing of the govt in order to fully express this inclination. What if male and female dynamics are inherently adversarial? The only reason men are fooled into thinking otherwise is because women are forced to hide this motive. They still need us for survival. The moment they dont need you for survival they will turn on you.
 

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Another good video explaining this. This is a little too religious but he makes great points. Not all women are like the Succubi but many are.
 

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I just realized something. Lilith is a metaphor for penis envy. The ancients were trying to warn men about these types of women. The women that are "too strong" and "independent" are the ones that secretly envy you. Feminism was among other things a way for all the broken women to express their penis envy. Every woman has a little bit of it. The hard core feminist and difficult women have too much penis envy.

Feminist are obsessed with men. They love them. They rant and rant about patriarchy. You dont constantly talk about something you hate. If you truly hate something you are indifferent to it. Feminist are anything but indifferent to men. Feminist even dress like men and style their persona after the masculine form.

Every female you date secretly envies you. She envies you because she admires your qualities but she herself will never have those qualities. We often want to destroy things that we envy if we realize that those objects are unattainable. If I cant afford a Porsche I can at least key the Porsche in the parking lot.

This is why you should expect no mercy from your women when you are weak. You may get temporary mercy but that will soon fade. Hypergamy is really just penis envy on steroids.

This is why some women date beta losers. Its not that they like losers. Its that losers quenches their penis envy. She gets to be the man. She is in control. This is intoxicating for her. Even if he is physically beating her she knows deep down that he is more messed up than her. These woman are too insecure to be around a high value man. A high value man is a constant reminder of her inferiority thus exacerbating the penis envy even more.

Okay guys I am getting way too deep into this topic. For some reason it is fascinating.
 
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