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What is the point of Marriage in 2020?

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Toronto is a really bad place to try to mate. The mating environment is extremely toxic. I'm glad I don't live there. There are plenty of articles out there about the toxicity of Toronto. In the United States, the metro areas with the absolute worst mating environments are Washington DC, San Francisco, Portland (Oregon), and Seattle.
jlaix lives in San Fran. I saw old threads on rsd. It seems anywhere that is liberal is garbage for pickup or high risk of false accusations. I recall a radio host getting false accusations. I remember rsd Tyler trashing women from Seattle. I once had a layover. It reminded me of the scene in nip tuck where Christian Troy does cosmetic surgery on a woman and gives her a paper bag after to smash her in. Lulz

I never got into RSD. I thought Better Bachelor is MGTOW. Living in a bus isn't going to help a guy pick up women so MGTOW by default?
Hard to believe. They are or were market leader for pickup. Pretty much couldn't find pickup anywhere and not see rsd pop up. I still think mystery is the GOAT showman.

YA. Better bachelor is mgtow. Lives on a bus. Rsd Alex left rsd or got fired. He lives in a bus or trailer now.

Pickup is not a ideal career path. Curious to know what Tusks exit strategy. Unless **** you money, rooshv and others are screwed. There's no coming back to corporate.

2013 was the year I turned 30 and realized that I needed a more sustainable version of game to meet women. That's when I shifted from a primarily night game pickup model to a primarily day game model. We are similar in thought.
At least one of us has common sense. In 2013, I was rampaging the club scene. Day game in Trafalgar square. The lockdown killed night life. I don't know how it comes back. The London model is gold right now. I think day games complexity is next level. I love it.


All of my friends are married and in 5+ year long relationships. I've seen my friends less due to the pandemic. 30+ men who have shorter relationships and are not married don't tend to fit in well. While I'm socially adept, I'm in a different place in life compared to many of my friends.
Learn to blend in. I don't show up to a old high school or college buddy's place with a girl age 18 or 21. I blend in. I don't red pill married guys or anything of the kind. It's not warranted. It does come out in the club but I am typically discrete. Actions are red pill. I spit game and I have a flirt but I am otherwise discrete. ToddV is boring but good game is. It is not a highlight reel Infield.

I do think that it will get harder with time. I watched my older pals settle down. Most of my group too. Then, my younger pals are going to out having kids or married. I am happy for buds assuming that is what they want. I am skeptical. I think some picked it whereas, others are blue pill. I know that a lot of people are jumpy to the beaten path just cause. A miniscule amount are legit. Met young and built a life. Religious too.

I was listening to Peterson. He was talking about the amount of people you meet and date. The amount that you have chemistry with and actually get on. The number of people increases with time naturally but the amount of chemistry seemingly declines with time. The complexity increases over time. People have kids. They are jaded. They bring drama and other crap with age. Women are more entitled now than ever before and are waiting till 30 before seeking longevity of a marriage. Ironic given fertility.
 

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jlaix lives in San Fran. I saw old threads on rsd. It seems anywhere that is liberal is garbage for pickup or high risk of false accusations. I recall a radio host getting false accusations. I remember rsd Tyler trashing women from Seattle. I once had a layover. It reminded me of the scene in nip tuck where Christian Troy does cosmetic surgery on a woman and gives her a paper bag after to smash her in. Lulz
The worst metro areas are the most liberal ones, most hardcore feminist ones. I named the 4 in the United States that fit that description.

It also doesn't help that in most U.S. most areas, there are more single men than single women. Denver is a sausage fest partially because there are more men into outdoorsy, athletic things than women. San Diego is a sausage fest because of the multiple nearby military bases. The worst ratios in the United States are found in the Western half of the contiguous United States.

Pickup is not a ideal career path. Curious to know what Tusks exit strategy. Unless **** you money, rooshv and others are screwed. There's no coming back to corporate.
Roosh V was a microbiologist for 6 years before getting bigger as a part time blogger. Roosh published "Bang" around the time he quit microbiology and then become a full time pickup artist/blogger. Roosh didn't attract a lot of hatred until he deviated away from pickup full time and started getting into more cultural topics. Yes, culture affects game, but getting into culture and possibly politics leads to bad things. An argument can be made that Roosh should have stayed small, kept part time blogging, and kept his microbiologist job for stability. STEM occupations are always in demand.

2013 was the year I turned 30 and realized that I needed a more sustainable version of game to meet women. That's when I shifted from a primarily night game pickup model to a primarily day game model. We are similar in thought.
At least one of us has common sense. In 2013, I was rampaging the club scene. Day game in Trafalgar square. The lockdown killed night life. I don't know how it comes back. The London model is gold right now. I think day games complexity is next level. I love it.
Part of why I became a day game guy around age 30 is that I was never really good at staying up late at night. It was always a challenge to get beyond 12 AM and stay fiercely alert to be on the top of my game. Before 2013, I had done some approaching outdoors while walking/hiking in one city and done a little bit of fitness class approaching in 2012. I never did grocery store approaching and mall/other retail area approaching. I wanted to be able to meet women during the day on weekends and not have to stay up late. I should have started as a day game specialist earlier in life. The impetus of turning 30 pushed me into it.

Learn to blend in. I don't show up to a old high school or college buddy's place with a girl age 18 or 21. I blend in. I don't red pill married guys or anything of the kind. It's not warranted. It does come out in the club but I am typically discrete. Actions are red pill. I spit game and I have a flirt but I am otherwise discrete. ToddV is boring but good game is. It is not a highlight reel Infield.

I do think that it will get harder with time. I watched my older pals settle down. Most of my group too. Then, my younger pals are going to out having kids or married. I am happy for buds assuming that is what they want. I am skeptical. I think some picked it whereas, others are blue pill. I know that a lot of people are jumpy to the beaten path just cause. A miniscule amount are legit. Met young and built a life. Religious too.

I was listening to Peterson. He was talking about the amount of people you meet and date. The amount that you have chemistry with and actually get on. The number of people increases with time naturally but the amount of chemistry seemingly declines with time. The complexity increases over time. People have kids. They are jaded. They bring drama and other crap with age. Women are more entitled now than ever before and are waiting till 30 before seeking longevity of a marriage. Ironic given fertility.
As men get into their 30s, there are fewer like minded men. Fewer like minded men was part of why I focused on day game, because you don't need wings to day game. You can roll solo with night game and it matters less than most men think, but day game is more suited to rolling solo. A lot of men surrender and do the beta thing with whatever woman they are with around their late 20s/early 30s. The first wave of men tend to partner off with their high school or college sweethearts. There's often a flurry of marriages in a social circle somewhere between 25-33 for most men, depending on a number of factors. A lot of men see this flurry of marriages and then settle down with the girlfriend they have during this flurry due to the social pressures of the circle.

I agree with Peterson on that. Relationships that form earlier in life can be better if they sustain the test of time. Most don't though.
 

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Toronto is a tough dating market and frequently called the worst city in North America for men due to rampant SJW/careerist/feminist things going on there.
That's true. However, whenever I go out in public park trails, I always see couples and families paired up all over the place to the point that sometimes I feel bad for myself. But then again, natural scenic city parks are probably a magnet for those types of people anyway and that could be skewed.
 

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That's true. However, whenever I go out in public park trails, I always see couples and families paired up all over the place to the point that sometimes I feel bad for myself. But then again, natural scenic city parks are probably a magnet for those types of people anyway and that could be skewed.
Could it be that most couples that are in good relationship in Toronto are really women that wears the pants being in relationship with blue pilled beta simps or wannabe alpha's? I wonder about this...
 

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The worst metro areas are the most liberal ones, most hardcore feminist ones. I named the 4 in the United States that fit that description.
It's funny that the most unattractive women live their. Do you remember Gambler? Richard R I think. He was on a Britain talk show years ago talking about British women being fat. It is hilarious. The better part is that he pointed out Russia where women are more attractive. A feminist rages. Color hair. No active gym membership. Shocking.

It also doesn't help that in most U.S. most areas, there are more single men than single women. Denver is a sausage fest partially because there are more men into outdoorsy, athletic things than women. San Diego is a sausage fest because of the multiple nearby military bases. The worst ratios in the United States are found in the Western half of the contiguous United States.
My man knows logistics. I can't comment here. I been to NYC, LA, Vegas, Boston, and a few other states.

Roosh V was a microbiologist for 6 years before getting bigger as a part time blogger. Roosh published "Bang" around the time he quit microbiology and then become a full time pickup artist/blogger. Roosh didn't attract a lot of hatred until he deviated away from pickup full time and started getting into more cultural topics. Yes, culture affects game, but getting into culture and possibly politics leads to bad things. An argument can be made that Roosh should have stayed small, kept part time blogging, and kept his microbiologist job for stability. STEM occupations are always in demand.
Agreed. I prefer him over most red pill who like to attack him. I feel bad for him. He has been banished from the YouTube. He killed Rot, he can't do events or live talks, but I don't know what he is doing now. I enjoyed his books and I found him more authentic than Neil Strauss who is a sly used car salesman like. He is a snake. Lmfao he being better than mystery cracks me up. Good writer and marketer.


Part of why I became a day game guy around age 30 is that I was never really good at staying up late at night. It was always a challenge to get beyond 12 AM and stay fiercely alert to be on the top of my game. Before 2013, I had done some approaching outdoors while walking/hiking in one city and done a little bit of fitness class approaching in 2012. I never did grocery store approaching and mall/other retail area approaching. I wanted to be able to meet women during the day on weekends and not have to stay up late. I should have started as a day game specialist earlier in life. The impetus of turning 30 pushed me into it.
SW mate, I went full retard. A decade + of pickup is insanity. I tell @nicksaiz65 not to go full retard but seek competence. You could have done something else in the time span. In retrospect, Women are not worth the investment of time. The thing is that, I was very blue pill and game red pilled me. I had flashes of brilliancy and I would try to encapsulate it. I burned the ****ing boat. I enjoy the game and pickup for sport. I will still run game in a club or bar but 7 nights a week ended in my teens. Special occasion or random outings. Not a big part of the focus but I burned every night to the ground. There was no wondering WHAT IF? It was the selling point for me.



It's been a wild ride man. More to come but I am shifting gears in 2021. More flash game, sniper approach but chasing purpose. Baees are recreational.

As men get into their 30s, there are fewer like minded men. Fewer like minded men was part of why I focused on day game, because you don't need wings to day game. You can roll solo with night game and it matters less than most men think, but day game is more suited to rolling solo. A lot of men surrender and do the beta thing with whatever woman they are with around their late 20s/early 30s. The first wave of men tend to partner off with their high school or college sweethearts. There's often a flurry of marriages in a social circle somewhere between 25-33 for most men, depending on a number of factors. A lot of men see this flurry of marriages and then settle down with the girlfriend they have during this flurry due to the social pressures of the circle.
I agree. Ironically enough, I think it's a better ROI and bet for a man to snatch up young. Far too often, it's the carousel, skiing down cawk mountain, raw dog, and busted at nearly 30 seeking to play house. The red pill is a good example for the most part. At least Blue pill is ignorant of the female nature. Red pill has no excuse but it is that arrogance and stupidity like 'game my wife.' stfu! I know what this means but still. It's weak. I got more respect beta blue pill who married high school sweet heart and got her best than red pill marriage coach marrying 30 something off the carousel. WTF? A lack of a spine and being a normy conformy gets married because everyone else is. A trick I found is that, I keep women I hookup with separate from the circle. It means that cutting or next a girl has little to no fallout. Mistakes men make are bringing her into your circle of friends. KEEP SEPARATE!!!

I found with game, I learned from a natural ages ago that the ideal is to show up with women (pivots) to the club. The alternative is to go with a wing or mixed group. The sec I am in the que, I am opening sets. It lubrication for pickup. Dudes are your new wings at least from optics or maybe legit.
This cheeky **** would have a jumbo airport van stacked full of girls who are coming to the club with him. Once a driver refuses to take the group as I was one too many. Playboy says, alright.... Girls out the **** wagon. They followed his lead.TThe driver apologized and he drove us. I was a year into game but this ****er would go on a week vaca and bang a dozen girls. Several some days and he would just brag about needing competition.

Short, ethic, party boy but he could talk. Dude could sell sand in a dessert. He sucks people into his world. Women are flying out around the world to come visit him after vaca. He is pretty ridiculous.

I agree with Peterson on that. Relationships that form earlier in life can be better if they sustain the test of time. Most don't though.
Peterson pointed out that genius of pickup and the outcome from the abundance of approach. After fifty, no AA. It is something to be said. I swear every set is practice. Relationships as in ltr or friendship? Both? I think Rollo said the divorce stats high if married young but I suspect the man's projecting given the time he married. Women divorce. I think fellas need to pick young.
 

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Could it be that most couples that are in good relationship in Toronto are really women that wears the pants being in relationship with blue pilled beta simps or wannabe alpha's? I wonder about this...
That thought process is not going in my mind, and even if it did, it still would not make me feel any better. Like you said "good relationship". Does that even matter if its a "good relationship", because if it did then it would not be a "good relationship". We can always say "they look happy now, but xyz months, years down the road...." or say some other sour grapes trope to feel better about it.
 

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That's true. However, whenever I go out in public park trails, I always see couples and families paired up all over the place to the point that sometimes I feel bad for myself. But then again, natural scenic city parks are probably a magnet for those types of people anyway and that could be skewed.
Are you going to singles dense areas? In my city, there are walking/hiking areas that would be mostly families and then one that would be more singles conducive. Choosing the right places to go is everything.
 

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Are you going to singles dense areas? In my city, there are walking/hiking areas that would be mostly families and then one that would be more singles conducive. Choosing the right places to go is everything.
I don't think anywhere near park scenery in the city is exclusively single dense. I bike in the nearest picturesque trail by my home. Of course there are a mix of singles and people who are coupled up and family. Maybe mixed use.
 

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Neil Strauss who is a sly used car salesman like. He is a snake. Lmfao he being better than mystery cracks me up. Good writer and marketer.
Selling cars both new and used has such a bad reputation.

SW mate, I went full retard. A decade + of pickup is insanity. I tell @nicksaiz65 not to go full retard but seek competence. You could have done something else in the time span. In retrospect, Women are not worth the investment of time. The thing is that, I was very blue pill and game red pilled me. I had flashes of brilliancy and I would try to encapsulate it. I burned the ****ing boat. I enjoy the game and pickup for sport. I will still run game in a club or bar but 7 nights a week ended in my teens. Special occasion or random outings. Not a big part of the focus but I burned every night to the ground. There was no wondering WHAT IF? It was the selling point for me.

You're right about balance. Guys who do nothing but approach women and bang are not the most balanced guys. Being balanced is better than being an approaching maniac.


I agree. Ironically enough, I think it's a better ROI and bet for a man to snatch up young. Far too often, it's the carousel, skiing down cawk mountain, raw dog, and busted at nearly 30 seeking to play house. The red pill is a good example for the most part. At least Blue pill is ignorant of the female nature. Red pill has no excuse but it is that arrogance and stupidity like 'game my wife.' stfu! I know what this means but still. It's weak. I got more respect beta blue pill who married high school sweet heart and got her best than red pill marriage coach marrying 30 something off the carousel. WTF? A lack of a spine and being a normy conformy gets married because everyone else is. A trick I found is that, I keep women I hookup with separate from the circle. It means that cutting or next a girl has little to no fallout. Mistakes men make are bringing her into your circle of friends. KEEP SEPARATE!!!

Peterson pointed out that genius of pickup and the outcome from the abundance of approach. After fifty, no AA. It is something to be said. I swear every set is practice. Relationships as in ltr or friendship? Both? I think Rollo said the divorce stats high if married young but I suspect the man's projecting given the time he married. Women divorce. I think fellas need to pick young.
I agree with all of this.
 
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