"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What is the best way..?

floaton

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to ask a girl if she and another guy are "involved?" I have a pretty good feeling they are, but I don't want to seem overbearing by asking her (or the guy) straight up. I'm friends with both of them, but they spend a lot of time together by themselves.

She has denied any interest in this guy.. but I have a feeling they're hiding something.

ps i'm obviously interested in this girl. she likes me, but I don't know on what level.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Grey Fox

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Well start getting her to hang with you and ask her out on a date once you've built up the interest level enough. Make sure she knows its a date too. Just be careful your not pursuing a Queen Bee, a chick who keeps a bunch of guys around to do things for he like a bunch of drones.

I would admonish you not directly ask because the game is up at that point and she will know that you like her. Depending on what type of girl she is, and wether or not she is flaky that could be a deal breaker.

The best way is to hang out, but make sure you begin to shift the interest by getting her to call you more often, and not to jump at every single chance to please her. Become a challenge and a mystery, if you need advice on that read the DJ Bible.

-Grey Fox
 

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Originally posted by California Love
you shouldn't ask her in the first place. Be confident and don't inquire on anything regarding other guys.
'zactly. If she doesn' mention him, or start kissing him or anythign like that in public, then she's not with him.
 

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Our American friends have a crude, but apt phrase for this situation:

'Make the hoe say no'.

Until she explicitly mentions any attachments, you simply assume she is available. Generally when women want to put men off, they won't do it directly by saying 'I have a boyfriend' because they don't want to risk the fact that YOU might not be interested.

They will just talk about 'my boyfriend' a lot, or they'll say 'we did x and then we did y', where the 'we' is the clue. Until you start hearing all this, don't worry.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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