What is the best fighting style? Lets settle this once and for all

[Dust 2 Dust]

Originally posted by reyalp
Easy, it's whatever Chuck Fsckin Norris uses.

Chuck Norris by Armbar.

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by PRMoon
Marksmanship is the best fighting style fellas.

I still stand by this. If there can be weapons form in martial arts, then truely the ultimate weapon to put some one down with (without blowing the crap out of the surrounding area...sometimes) is the gun.

The militarys of the world train their soldiers in hand to hand combat but when it's an option, they always go for a gun. Hence if are looking for the ultimate fighting technique you need look no further then the end of my barretta.

 

[Reyaj]

Nishbuk!!! You said Wandrei Silva is one of the best ever???

Are you nuts.... good thing I researched tihs.


He has lost to both Vitor Belfort and Tito Ortiz!!!!

 

[Reyaj]

Lidell beat Coutoure, but lost to Rampage Jackson in pride.

More proof that UFC is inferior.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Shooting/Grappling and Boxing is the consensus at my gym.

I think Grappling>>Boxing cuz wtf are you gonna do when some guy has your whole strong arm in stretched out inbetween his legs & who's ready to snap your wrist back into the opposite way?

Or someone grabs you and the slams the **** outta you on the hard concrete?

...nothing you can do it would be a wrap in a matter of seconds.

I seen legit tough guys around here get there arms broken by these dominican grapplers in Weehaken.

^But at the same time what are the chances of you bumping into a guy that knows all that?Like 1 in 100.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

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[roiclicks]

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. After watching those ultimate fighting videos and visiting Brazil a few times, there is nothing like it. Very few people can take down guys 3-4 times their size and strength and win, without a baseball bat or a gun.
Ever seen the Ultimate fight videos. If you haven't, you've missed out.
For me, Jiu-Jitsu all the way.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

In my opinion, here's a sequential flow.

Start off with BJJ and Muay Thai (2-4 years)->Wrestling/Judo (1-2 years)->Jeet Kune Do/Kali(2-4 years)->Tai Chi/Kung Fu

Within a decade of this sort of crosstraining, it seems like one would be a total fighter, both physically and mentally.

 

[Chillisauce]

Originally posted by PRMoon
I still stand by this. If there can be weapons form in martial arts, then truely the ultimate weapon to put some one down with (without blowing the crap out of the surrounding area...sometimes) is the gun.

The militarys of the world train their soldiers in hand to hand combat but when it's an option, they always go for a gun. Hence if are looking for the ultimate fighting technique you need look no further then the end of my barretta.

I read somewhere that more people have died in wars since the invention of the gun by hand to hand (non shooting weapons included) than anything else. I'll try and remember where i read it and grab a source.

Oh and the best fighting style is Kyokushinkai Karate by a long shot , my loyalty will never falter!

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by Chillisauce
I read somewhere that more people have died in wars since the invention of the gun by hand to hand (non shooting weapons included) than anything else.

That's the stupidist thing I've ever heard

 

[Chillisauce]

Originally posted by PRMoon
That's the stupidist thing I've ever heard

Think about some of the wars, bayonette charges, trench fighting and the likes. I read it in a peer reviewed journal during my history class at uni, in a few weeks when i have access to the database i'll link it.

My point anyway is that war is alot more brutal than many people suspect, its not some point and shoot video-game.

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by Chillisauce
Think about some of the wars, bayonette charges, trench fighting and the likes. I read it in a peer reviewed journal during my history class at uni, in a few weeks when i have access to the database i'll link it.

My point anyway is that war is alot more brutal than many people suspect, its not some point and shoot video-game.

First off your original post said NON SHOOTING weapons included and in this one you mention bayonette charges which is combat with a weapon. Also the bulk of trench fights also were won at the end of a barrel.

I took a military history class so I'll just lay it down to you straight up. Since the gun was invented there has only been one larger killer of man in war during combat time and that's disease/infection. You think hand to hand combat has killed more people since the innovation of heavy artillary and bombs? Not likely. Lets also concider that the most violent conflict resulting in the most deaths in human history was WW2 with roughly 62 million deaths. There's no way bare knuckle boxing acounted for even a quarter of those deaths. I don't know what source you're talking about but it's bunk. There's no way that in the age of modern warfare that hand to hand combat out weighs death by projectiles.

 

[Chillisauce]

by hand to hand i dont only mean boxing, sorry for the misunderstanding.

I mean such things as strangalation, bludeoning (with the ends of their rifles/anything thats around), stabbings (bayonettes + knives) , close proximity stuff. In such cases it would very much benefit you to have martial art training.

Your right though, i probably mis-read or took it out of context. Got a conceded pass in that history subject .

 

[Reyaj]

lets stick to hand to hand combat, no weaponary please.

 

[reyalp]

for instance, in the US Civil War, more soliders died from disease/infection than all of the combat deaths put together.

IMO I think if you've got to pick ONE style to rule them all in a street fight, Krav Maga would be the best.

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by Jayer
lets stick to hand to hand combat, no weaponary please.

what about swords form? Doesn't that count, after all it is a martial arts form.

My fighting style is all military based taught to my by my father who served two tours in vietnam. He showed me how to take people down, for good if necessary.

I didn't see much need in practicing any other form of hand to hand combat after that so I learned weapons form. I study Iaido and Battojutsu. I have several katanas, one of which is a reverse blade with a double spine blood groove.

I think the concentration and discipline involved with swordsman ship is equal if not greater then that necessary for hand to hand combat.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Originally posted by reyalp
for instance, in the US Civil War, more soliders died from disease/infection than all of the combat deaths put together.

IMO I think if you've got to pick ONE style to rule them all in a street fight, Krav Maga would be the best.

Krav maga has been p*ssifed and mcdojoed. Don't even waste your time.

 

[Brian20o2]

I would think that with Boxing and Judo you would win most of your fights. Quick jab, Hard jab their on the ground then put them in some badass hold.

BTW There is no Best and Final martial art.

 

[reyalp]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
Krav maga has been p*ssifed and mcdojoed. Don't even waste your time.

True, I'm sure any Krav Maga classes you would take over here in the US are going to be half-assed verions of the real thing. What the IDF learns, I'm sure is a different version all together.

So, maybe we should reformulate the question:
What's the best fighting style, for a street fight, that you can learn conventionally?

 

[Reyaj]

Gracie or matt hughes? Who's going to win?