What is my smv, where do I go from here and upscale apps

[Jason9]

I am 36 and live in England, but I am very driven and ambitious. I am willing to work seven days a week and use my substantial savings to invest.

I am pursuing the self-employment route as an electrician or a plumber, starting as a subcontractor through a training company and utilizing their industry contacts. The plan is to earn £200 a day initially as a subcontractor, increasing to £350–£400 per day within three years as I gain more experience.

Alternatively, I may use my savings to go into property development, either independently or through a partnership.

Forex trading is another potential source of income, with the goal of saving up which I can of £50,000 of my savings to generate £4,000 to £5,000 a day.

Maybe put all my thousands of savings by 40 into investing, yielding money every week back from it.

On the personal side, I have tried the Bumble and Hinge dating apps. Bumble was hit and miss; I would get a match with an attractive woman about once a month and have a conversation.

I have also cold-approached around 200 women: only a few conversed with me, some smiled and said they were busy, and I managed to get two phone numbers total.

I am thinking that after turning 40, equipped with reasonable financial resources, I might try upscale dating apps.

I'll complete a masters degree on the side as a sense of achievement.

All in all, what is my SMV (Sexual Market Value), and where do I go from here? The money will be there as well as the assets, resources, qualities, etc the potential for wealth

 

[Cheeky_James]

Pm me a pic and I’ll tell you mate .
Your smv starts with your Looks tbh.
There is also a website called Fotor that will give you a rating from a selfie .

 

[plumber]

your plan for being money and security make sense. if you do what your telling, it going to work out.

the old school way to meet a woman was.
-parents, relatives, friends
-school
-university
-church
-hobbies and sports
-anything getting people together....
-last that came was internet and apps.

don't forget all the other ways to meet. lots of guys now days have completely forgotten everything that's not a computer app. count the number of women in the apps you use. no way that is ALL the women.. those ones in the apps are really on display and hunting for the limited few men that have already done very very well; and look good. much easier to compete away from the apps unless your one of those special guys. there photo will be right next to yours on her screen.... she will not talk to you or move forward with you unless he is not available. off of the app you have the chance to be the best in view.

your plan to study for advanced degree may lead you to meet other like minded people. try to attend a live class instead of online if you can fit that in.

 

[Gamisch]

Realistically it takes 5 years of hard work and study to learn a trade, and it takes overtime and bumping your head to master said trade.

Its great to be ambitious, but yiu also gotta be realistic. If you say electricity OR plumbing...those are two completely different skills. You'll have to start with an apprenticeship and that will oftentimes means doing the dirty jobs, sweeping ,cleaning ect.

Again, great to be ambitious but both of those skills will have MASSIVE consequences when done wrong. You gotta find a mentor ,both for the bizz and the practical side of the job. You'll gain clients by actually doing a great job ,that makes people wanna hire you.

Regarding your smv; right now just think its low. That leaves plenty of room to grow and gain smv. A man's smv is a total sum of ALL aspects combined: the spiritual, physical, financial and emotional.

Pm me a pic and I’ll tell you mate .
Your smv starts with your Looks tbh.
There is also a website called Fotor that will give you a rating from a selfie .

I disagree. A man's smv depends on his overall value. Depending on a man's goal , looks might be the least important on the list.

 

[Jason9]

Thank you for all of your insights and replies, everyone. I will take it all on board.

The training company has contacts, so I can go down the subcontracting route first if I want to. From there, it will take around three years to reach contractor level, earning £350–£450 per day.

I will continue cold approaching and utilizing traditional ways of meeting women.

I do not really wish to use all my savings on trading forex. Savings are for savings.

A contracting job should be more than enough to attract a woman.

The only reason I would consider putting thousands of pounds of savings into trading forex is to earn a substantial weekly income to afford upscale dating apps, where women go for successful men and initiate conversations first.

 

[UK manc]

What traditional ways/places are you thinking of?

 

[viking22]

That is the problem with online dating generally. In the old days the most attractive guys and girls did not bother with it because there was a bit of a stigma and required a lot more time investment before smartphones enabled swipe based apps. Now these apps are saturated and even an average looking girl can create a profile and get hundreds of likes a day so if you're a regular guy you will easily get overlooked.

I would suggest trying old school online dating sites such as e-harmony or match. You are more likely to find women who will be attracted to your ambition and your maturity. You will also have less competition because the top guys don't tend to bother with those apps because they clean up on Bumble/Tinder/Hinge. Same is true of a new app called Breeze.

Upscale dating apps are unlikely to work out any better. You may end up being wealthier and more successful compared to the average joe and qualify for membership of those apps. But women will still go for the top 10% on those apps and the top 10% on those apps are likely to be celebrities/multimillionaires etc.

You'd be better off sticking to the regular apps (or trying the old school apps I suggested) and curating your profile to market yourself as the successful businessman going places without making yourself too much of a target for golddiggers. Not easy but not impossible.

Supplement that with some social dance classes.

Also if you are getting one match a month it means you are being too selective/picky. That doesn't serve men well in this day and age.
The bar should be "Do I find her attractive enough that I would want to have sex with her". If that bar is cleared then even an average looking girl can be fun to date if she has a good attitude and a fun personality. Attractive women and especially attractive women who are serial daters on the apps are often tiresome to date unless you meet her impossibly high standards.

 

[pipeman84]

Forex trading is another potential source of income, with the goal of saving up which I can of £50,000 of my savings to generate £4,000 to £5,000 a day.

If your trading plan is to make 8-10% a day then it's almost guaranteed you'll blow up your account.

I have also cold-approached around 200 women: only a few conversed with me, some smiled and said they were busy, and I managed to get two phone numbers total.

Cold approaching is like telling a woman upfront your SMV is 0.

All in all, what is my SMV (Sexual Market Value), and where do I go from here? The money will be there as well as the assets, resources, qualities, etc the potential for wealth

All in all, the whole OP sounds like you're making all these plans only to end up targeting gold diggers on ''upscale dating apps''.

 

[Arete]

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What every skinny guy should know...

Smart, fun, and interesting. So why is it that all the beautiful women always seem out of your grasp? Why!? You may even be athletic. You can do karate, can run super fast around the track, along with other things. So why does it seem you can get the average to cute girls but the very...

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As you age, this will only get more and more important, assuming your strike zone is women around 25 years old.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

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What every skinny guy should know...

Smart, fun, and interesting. So why is it that all the beautiful women always seem out of your grasp? Why!? You may even be athletic. You can do karate, can run super fast around the track, along with other things. So why does it seem you can get the average to cute girls but the very...

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As you age, this will only get more and more important, assuming your strike zone is women around 25 years old.

People just don't get how frustrating it can be for skinny dudes. Even if you ARE a capable fighter etc..., she doesn't trust on a subconscious level you can handle business. It's been a NIGHT/DAY difference for me going from 128-137 ish to 165-173ish. I can't remember the last time someone said "You ain't nothin but skin and bone" or something of that effect. My temper improved as well, because I didn't flare up naturally to the order of "You wanna see what this bone feels like???"

I also receive a LOT more positive attention or IOIs from women EVERYWHERE. At all ages! Another thing I've noticed is that more and more men give me challenges or seemingly go out of their way to be d1cks if their lady is making eyes at me. They don't actually challenge me physically, but do everything to annoy or piss me off. Little do they know that I find it hilarious. Sometimes I admit I catch myself wishing one of them would try something. haha

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Jason9 "...live in England, but I am very driven and ambitious"

Use those traits to escape The UK, for starters. Hunting cooter in THAT neck of the woods is the equivalent of attempting to gain sustenance from whatever's on the shelf at the nearest petrol station