What is intimacy? (after redpill)

[Sega Genesis]

It's not possible with a chad, narcissist, or sociopath. And it's usually those with a strong, natural toxic game who attract women.

I'm not sure @jhonny9546 .

I think a Chad can if he met the right woman who created a 'safe space' for him to open up without fear of her judgment.

A narcissist? I don't know enough about narcissism to say. What I do know is every person is narcissistic to some degree, it exists on a spectrum with some possessing more narcissistic traits than others.

Those who score high on that spectrum who possess certain characteristics (such as grandiosity, entitlement and lack of empathy) I suppose would be diagnosed as having NPD as it's defined....but even then they may be capable of a deep bond, connection, intimacy IF they were to meet a woman who again created that safe space.

I honestly don't know but I'd like to think so.

In any event it IS hard for many people and may involve lots of push/pulls until such time true Trust between them is achieved. NOT easy even for the most secure of people... in my experience.

Could it be that same feeling you get when you talk to your therapist? (He doesn't judge you, but he gets you talking and gives you advice.)

No 'intimacy' isn't anything like speaking with a therapist.

It's not about giving advice, it's about sharing, listening with an open mind and heart, love and acceptance.

If you're seeking advice or a solution to whatever you're feeling and experiencing, that is when you speak to a therapist.

 

[Sega Genesis]

A gal who makes a conscious effort to ensure her man isn't coming home to a f-c-ing slaughterhouse every night...

Lol you have such a way with words Baron ... but I agree. In fact for some of us it doesn't even take a 'conscious effort'.

It comes naturally, a part of her nature (even- tempered, low drama). Assuming she loves, respects and admires him.

 

[Manure Spherian]

there will never be true intimacy in the relationship?

So living with, caring for, her caring for me, time spent with extended family, raising kids together, and screwing, might be false intimacy with my wife?

 

[Manure Spherian]

Lol you have such a way with words Baron ... but I agree. In fact for some of us it doesn't even take a 'conscious effort'.

It comes naturally, a part of her nature (even- tempered, low drama). Assuming she loves, respects and admires him.

Yes. Luckily my friend, cousins, and I, don’t have to think about this stuff. We found well-adjusted spouses without personally disorders.

 

[jhonny9546]

Yes. Luckily my friend, cousins, and I, don’t have to think about this stuff. We found well-adjusted spouses without personally disorders.

What makes you think that?

 

[Manure Spherian]

What makes you think that?

Years of living together and child raising and observed social integration.

Do you like women?

 

[Cheeky_James]

It’s tough.

there’s two sayings that are applicable in a relationship. For it to work and for a guy to keep his power. And leading position. (I think)

“Desire lives in mystery”
And also
“Familiarity breeds contempt”

two sides of the same coin I guess.
Gotta keep some Independance and freedom for yourself. No matter what.

I have a good friend who was a notorious player/ladies man (a natural) . He always kept 1 night of every weekend , (if not 2) as a Lads Night.

great idea.

Don’t discuss or open up too much about your insecurities . Anxieties or problems to a woman.
Talk to other people about those for sure.

my 2c.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

I'll never understand why women are on this forum. Don't ever listen to a women encouraging you to be vulnerable with her. EVER. Save it for mentors or your mother. Same women who say such things fantasize about getting r**ed. Hypergamy is in their nature. Women would watch their men get killed and village taken over and not even think twice bout leaving with the conquerors.