"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What is HB8?

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Is there like a glossary of terms for this forum? I've gotten most but I see women being ranked, eg HB8 ... meaning?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HB stands for hot babe. However, it is used generically for any decent looking female. She doesn't necessarily have to be hot. Her hotness or lack thereof is given by the number after HB. It's the classic one through 10 scale. 7 is considered cute and doable. 8 is very cute. 9 is smoking hot. 10 is supermodel perfection. Below 7 can be doable. Just don't tell your friends lol. Finally, these appraisals are best performed sober lol.

So an HB8 is a very cute, bordering on hot female.

This system is not necessarily meant to objectify women, but to put the pickup attempt in context for the readers. If for example, a guy writes that he made out with some HB (and no number is included), the reader will wonder what she looked like.
 
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Ha so anything under 7 would be a MB (moderate babe) and below 5 a UB (ugly). Just kidding.

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5 should be moderate cause 5 is the middle of 1 and 10 then anything above 5 is doable in my opinion
 
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Is there like a glossary of terms for this forum? I've gotten most but I see women being ranked, eg HB8 ... meaning?
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pualingo.com and urbandictionary.com are good resources for pickup terminology
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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B+8 = bait so it means "hot bait"

I don't really understand the point of the term, TBH.

But apparently it's still in use
 
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