Albatross953
Master Don Juan
Well..did you get your answer?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yeah everything you guys said makes sense. I've already learned a lot from this thread alone. Definitely helps to hear somebody give it to me straight.Albatross953 said:Well..did you get your answer?
It happens to the best of us man.. just live and learn... There will always be another woman. Just put yourself out there you will be suprised. Never accept their friendship crap keep your dignity and self respect. They do not deserve your time, emotions, nor commitment when they dump you. No sex? well then BYE! Who cares what they think of you. All you did was prove you are a man and wont be manipulated nor play into thier horse ****. Just keep that in mind the grass is greener for YOU. They made the mistake and poor choice but that is their problem.jkars25 said:Yeah everything you guys said makes sense. I've already learned a lot from this thread alone. Definitely helps to hear somebody give it to me straight.
Looking back, I'm a little frustrated at my own inadequacy and inability to escalate things and maintain attraction. I can now see, as others have pointed out, exactly what behaviors of mine resulted in things going downhill. My ego took a slight hit as a result of this girl.
Kind of a ****ty outcome, but it is what it is. Live and learn.
Anyways, thanks for all the advice.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I lol'ed on thisYou reached Level 99 of the Friend Zone. Congratulations.