Albatross953
Master Don Juan
Well..did you get your answer?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yeah everything you guys said makes sense. I've already learned a lot from this thread alone. Definitely helps to hear somebody give it to me straight.Albatross953 said:Well..did you get your answer?
It happens to the best of us man.. just live and learn... There will always be another woman. Just put yourself out there you will be suprised. Never accept their friendship crap keep your dignity and self respect. They do not deserve your time, emotions, nor commitment when they dump you. No sex? well then BYE! Who cares what they think of you. All you did was prove you are a man and wont be manipulated nor play into thier horse ****. Just keep that in mind the grass is greener for YOU. They made the mistake and poor choice but that is their problem.jkars25 said:Yeah everything you guys said makes sense. I've already learned a lot from this thread alone. Definitely helps to hear somebody give it to me straight.
Looking back, I'm a little frustrated at my own inadequacy and inability to escalate things and maintain attraction. I can now see, as others have pointed out, exactly what behaviors of mine resulted in things going downhill. My ego took a slight hit as a result of this girl.
Kind of a ****ty outcome, but it is what it is. Live and learn.
Anyways, thanks for all the advice.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I lol'ed on thisYou reached Level 99 of the Friend Zone. Congratulations.