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What is game?

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''applied charisma'' was a definition I heard a long time back

But over the years i've kind of cared less and less about 'game' though and decided it's really somewhat irrelevant (and I studied and tested everything! from mystery to DiCarlo to yareally to NLP and everything in between lol!)

By that I mean, if a girl is attracted to you, the amount of 'game' you need to get her in bed is more or less 'don't be a COMPLETE autist'. It's honestly quite hard to screw it up with a girl is attracted to you as long as you are even remotely normal.

And if you are not her type and she's not attracted to you (you're way too old and fat and bald for her) then all of the 'game' in the world simply won't cut any ice at all. We've seen this proven so many times over the years with infields from the apparent best there is at 'game'.

In practical terms it's essentially flirting, dealing with small obstacles, having the balls to make a move etc. It's something to help you be more efficient at banging the girls who like you.

it's not, and has never been, what PUA marketing wants you to think it is. E.g techniques and verbals to brainwash/force attraction in any girl and making her want to bang you lol.
 
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Game is understanding social dynamics and the ability to identify social cues, and then use that knowledge to apply in social interactions.
The seduction game only applies to Males. Female game is a total myth.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I define 'game' as the ability to successfully approach, seduce, date or hook up with women.

I'm not into PUA style indirect game, though. I am all about the direct approach.
 

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Another buzzword which has performed a rather remarkable feat: Creating more confusion among the general public than corporate claptrap like "change agent" and "synergy" ever did
 

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The seduction game only applies to Males. Female game is a total myth.
If this were true, every gal who arrives in Hollywood each year from Bootlick, USA would become a sex symbol. The 2% who achieve It Girl status are the ones who put in the effort
 

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Game is the ability to :
-trigger responses from women
- when the trigger set in, the ability to actually act upon it . So you might LOOK like yiugit game but once you open your mouth you might show you DON'T got game
- the ability to adjust accordingly to the situation. E.g two or more women might need to be "played " at once.

It's about having that total package. Even though there are levels to it. Sometimes you just need looks game and you can have a air matras on the ground and a woman still wants to bang you. Other times you gonna need clean sheets and clean towels in order to impress a woman.
So game is also depending on whose your "opponent ".

A man with NO GAME might as well be "not ugly" but lacking social skills to execute any form of game. It's about positioning yourself, maintaining the spark at will. .

Game is such a complicated matter that most men simply deny It's existence. It's untouchable for those who can't see it, while it's there in abundance for the man who gets it.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Game is the ability to :
-trigger responses from women
- when the trigger set in, the ability to actually act upon it . So you might LOOK like yiugit game but once you open your mouth you might show you DON'T got game
- the ability to adjust accordingly to the situation. E.g two or more women might need to be "played " at once.

It's about having that total package. Even though there are levels to it. Sometimes you just need looks game and you can have a air matras on the ground and a woman still wants to bang you. Other times you gonna need clean sheets and clean towels in order to impress a woman.
So game is also depending on whose your "opponent ".

A man with NO GAME might as well be "not ugly" but lacking social skills to execute any form of game. It's about positioning yourself, maintaining the spark at will. .

Game is such a complicated matter that most men simply deny It's existence. It's untouchable for those who can't see it, while it's there in abundance for the man who gets it.
Eloquently said.

It ultimately boils down to experience. There's no quick fix; you can read everything you need to know, but you have to develop a callous over your heart before you are ready to deal with women honestly.

The sad thing is it's taken me 20 years to truly not give a fvck. Wisdom is wasted on the old
 

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Game is such a complicated matter that most men simply deny It's existence. It's untouchable for those who can't see it, while it's there in abundance for the man who gets it.
Women can be seen as 8-year-old girls in adult bodies, with intense and contradictory emotional behaviors.
Men, to be successful in relationships, adopt "the game," which these "adult children" are drawn to like bees to honey.

However, this creates internal dissonance in genuine men who are validated from within, since men must hide their true feelings to avoid failure.
What I have noticed is that those who have mastered "the game" do so because they have control over their environment and the people around them.
They focus on the outside and tend to manipulate others to maintain their game (girlfriend, friends, social circle, work, etc.). On the other hand, a real, mature, independent man knows that he should focus exclusively on his inner self. Results in other areas of life only come when he listens to himself.

This presents a contradiction: to be successful in "the game," you have to interact with other people, which means losing control of your inner self, because playing the game involves some level of manipulation, it is always an external focus.
You can call it positive, playful manipulation, but it remains an external focus.

So, to those of you who consider yourselves mature, independent men who listen to yourselves, if you truly listen to your feelings, how do you show gratitude, love, and other emotions to people without resorting to play and remaining internally focused? Is that even possible? At least for what I've tried, the game doesn't comes natural for me, I have to "actually do it", and it make me more "externally" centered, and successfull, than when I am genuine, self centered, but not successfull.

Do you understand what I mean?

@Gamisch @SW15 @RangerMIke
 

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Women can be seen as 8-year-old girls in adult bodies, with intense and contradictory emotional behaviors.
Men, to be successful in relationships, adopt "the game," which these "adult children" are drawn to like bees to honey.

However, this creates internal dissonance in genuine men who are validated from within, since men must hide their true feelings to avoid failure.
What I have noticed is that those who have mastered "the game" do so because they have control over their environment and the people around them.
They focus on the outside and tend to manipulate others to maintain their game (girlfriend, friends, social circle, work, etc.). On the other hand, a real, mature, independent man knows that he should focus exclusively on his inner self. Results in other areas of life only come when he listens to himself.

This presents a contradiction: to be successful in "the game," you have to interact with other people, which means losing control of your inner self, because playing the game involves some level of manipulation, it is always an external focus.
You can call it positive, playful manipulation, but it remains an external focus.

So, to those of you who consider yourselves mature, independent men who listen to yourselves, if you truly listen to your feelings, how do you show gratitude, love, and other emotions to people without resorting to play and remaining internally focused? Is that even possible? At least for what I've tried, the game doesn't comes natural for me, I have to "actually do it", and it make me more "externally" centered, and successfull, than when I am genuine, self centered, but not successfull.

Do you understand what I mean?

@Gamisch @SW15 @RangerMIke
Jhonny...why is it that every time an old thread gets revived, it's by you?

If you're spending that much time reading that you go a whole month into the past, maybe you should go back into the real world for a while.
 

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Game, is simplistic terms, can be defined as a "strategy" and or "tactic" that one uses in efforts to get a desired result.

For example, the focal point of dating coach Alan Roger Currie's "game", is direct verbal seduction...with less emphasis on bodygame.

The focal point of my game, is bodygame, with less emphasis on direct verbal seduction.
......

The dating game (and how you get women) is like hunting strategies/tactics..

Some hunters prefer..

1. Stalking their prey.

While some prefer..

2. Sitting up in a tree (or other camouflaged hiding enclosure) and waiting for their prey to get within range.

While others prefer..

3. Setting traps, leaving, and coming back later to see what they snagged.

Opinions vary on which method is the most efficient.

But as long as whatever game (strategy) you implement not only works for you, but works, in general, then there are no right or wrong answers.
 

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Game is understanding social dynamics and the ability to identify social cues, and then use that knowledge to apply in social interactions.
The seduction game only applies to Males. Female game is a total myth.
yup, women just have to exist in order to have men interested in them
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Game, is simplistic terms, can be defined as a "strategy" and or "tactic" that one uses in efforts to get a desired result.

For example, the focal point of dating coach Alan Roger Currie's "game", is direct verbal seduction...with less emphasis on bodygame.

The focal point of my game, is bodygame, with less emphasis on direct verbal seduction.
......

The dating game (and how you get women) is like hunting strategies/tactics..

Some hunters prefer..

1. Stalking their prey.

While some prefer..

2. Sitting up in a tree (or other camouflaged hiding enclosure) and waiting for their prey to get within range.

While others prefer..

3. Setting traps, leaving, and coming back later to see what they snagged.

Opinions vary on which method is the most efficient.

But as long as whatever game (strategy) you implement not only works for you, but works, in general, then there are no right or wrong answers.
Great analogy.

Do you also think a man should implement all three ? Some women you set the trap ,sometimes you stalk one and sometimes you wait for that opportunity in camouflage.

Is OLD the 3rd, where you set the trap and check what you caught later?
 

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Women can be seen as 8-year-old girls in adult bodies, with intense and contradictory emotional behaviors.
Men, to be successful in relationships, adopt "the game," which these "adult children" are drawn to like bees to honey.

However, this creates internal dissonance in genuine men who are validated from within, since men must hide their true feelings to avoid failure.
What I have noticed is that those who have mastered "the game" do so because they have control over their environment and the people around them.
They focus on the outside and tend to manipulate others to maintain their game (girlfriend, friends, social circle, work, etc.). On the other hand, a real, mature, independent man knows that he should focus exclusively on his inner self. Results in other areas of life only come when he listens to himself.

This presents a contradiction: to be successful in "the game," you have to interact with other people, which means losing control of your inner self, because playing the game involves some level of manipulation, it is always an external focus.
You can call it positive, playful manipulation, but it remains an external focus.

So, to those of you who consider yourselves mature, independent men who listen to yourselves, if you truly listen to your feelings, how do you show gratitude, love, and other emotions to people without resorting to play and remaining internally focused? Is that even possible? At least for what I've tried, the game doesn't comes natural for me, I have to "actually do it", and it make me more "externally" centered, and successfull, than when I am genuine, self centered, but not successfull.

Do you understand what I mean?

@Gamisch @SW15 @RangerMIke
"This presents a contradiction: to be successful in "the game," you have to interact with other people, which means losing control of your inner self, because playing the game involves some level of manipulation, it is always an external focus.
You can call it positive, playful manipulation, but it remains an external focus."



Game is also being able to adjust to whatever situation. Simple example; when I'm with my daughter the required game is different then when I'm with my homeboy. They both require a completely different type of game.

Some people say they can't or won't adjust. Mostly that will lead to unpleasant encounters ( arguably).

When it comes to women , your game is again, your ability to adjust to OVER- impress. Because the FOUNDATION of your game was set waaaay before you met her: your hours in the gym, you checking what clothes to wear your grind to get financially better ect ect. But when you DO meet a woman you might wanna be able to : adjust to her taste of ..music, movies, art ect. Read her and based on your experience and study of game...you know where to adjust, double down and where to pull back. So game is also about being intuitive and intelligent ( my game at least every man will have his own strategy).

Game also means you'll lose sometime...otherwise it wasn't a game. Can't win em all. That's okay as long as you learn from your losses.
 

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Looks, money, status, and personality

The ability to use those 4 items for the purposes of initially attracting and retaining women for sexual purposes.
 

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Looks, money, status, and personality

The ability to use those 4 items for the purposes of initially attracting and retaining women for sexual purposes.
I argued in my own head whether you are right or wrong.

I geus you are right though...you'll need the looks primarily to get eyes on you. Although money can also be a way to open doors..with a lotta women worldwide.

Status and personality are very much alike. You can create instant status to a strange woman by having looks, money ,and personality . And that's having game.
 

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Great analogy.

Do you also think a man should implement all three ? Some women you set the trap ,sometimes you stalk one and sometimes you wait for that opportunity in camouflage.
All 3 are good in order to increase your chances of success...and everyone has their preferred method.

Mines is stalking. That is literally what I do at supermarkets.

Follow them from a distance, wait until the time is right, and them BAM.

Never saw me coming.

Is OLD the 3rd, where you set the trap and check what you caught later?
Yupppp. Set the trap by posting some of your best pictures and/or send a couple messages so that they'll see you...to draw them to you...if they like what they see, they'll let you know.

Then you get a notification that you caught something in your trap, or you simply check your traps later....BAM...you got some unread messages.

Time to see what you caught.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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