"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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what is "bad" about being a nice guy?

omega05

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i see myself as a nice guy as in i do things/favors for other people if im not busy; more specifically giving females rides to places sometimes since i have a car. One of my guy friends says this is called being taken advantage of. So what is bad about doing nice things like that for people? I don't get things in return most of the time from these females that i give rides to and i guess that is the problem. So how do i go about saying NO the DJ way?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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DJDanny

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There's nothing wrong with it if they're your friends, if you want to take it further then you're going to have problems. As for saying no, just say "actually I am busy right now, hope you can find another ride." do NOT apologize for being busy, whether you're busy or not is irrelevant.
 

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should be reciprocated though if they are friends, tell them to do some sh1t for u too. If they decline, they are just using you and therefore aren't your friends at all.
 

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There's also a difference between doing it because you enjoy being nice vs. doing it because you think it's gonna get you in their pants. Obviously, being a girl's chauffeur isn't gonna get her to be attracted to you, but it doesn't really matter if that's not the effect you're going for.

The DJ does things because they make him happy. It takes a slight bit of selfishness.
 

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eh i told a girl yesterday that i was headed to the store today to by some food and she could come with me but then she hit me up today and i basically ignored her....

how can i get them to do things for me in general though?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You know being nice is doing things without expecting anything back, right?

it doesn't mean let people take advantage of you, but don't do things for people just because you want them to do something for you too. That's not being nice, that just being sneaky

Just because you give them rides doesn't mean they'll jump at the chance to give you one too, but when you need help you'll see how the true people are who appreciate what you do, because they'll be there for you

As for being a tax cab. if it's out of the way, I usually request Gas money. That sh1t ain't cheap. then they'll be doing something for ya

Don't let people walk over you, and learn to say no. Honestly if you don't want to drive these girls around then don't offer lol.

I'm a nice guy myself, but I don't let people take advantage of me. if they don't at least show some thankfulness or grow to expect being helped all the time then it's time to cut the service loose
 
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