ArtVandelay
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If a girl calls you a creep or creeper, it simply means that she finds you physically unattractive and your advances aren't welcome.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
azanon said:Again, sometimes they're actually the weird or quirky one. To a stuck-up, sheltered, bible-thumping, daddy's girl, I'll always be a creep in her mind.
Usually's too strong a word, IMO. "creep" is misused by the accuser approximately half the time in my estimation.
No, you're right, I'm not as introverted/shy/quiet when with family or close friends. But just about any other time I am...SinJester said:Let me ask you this, are you always introverted/shy/quiet or just in large groups? Do you act the same around your close friends or family?
What was your horrible experiance that made you feel like a creep?
Exactly - I'm the same way. And I think a lot of people perceive me as arrogant, aloof, unfriendly, etc. Hey, I'm an introvert, that's all. It takes a lot of energy for me to talk to someone, all the more so because I'm hard-of-hearing and have to focus on their face/lips in order to "lip-read" and really try to fill in the blanks (words I miss) in order to understand the person w/out constantly asking "what was that?"jigga23 said:ive been called a creep or weird. but then ive been called ****y and arrogant. so i got both ends of the spectrum. to me when i go out i will only talk to someone if im in the mood. if i dont it means im tired, bored and just dont care about the person and dont like putting in the effort.
Haha - I hear you.azanon said:The accusation most DJs should get from time-to-time is a$$hole. In fact, I'd go so far as to say if you've never been called that at least once or twice, you're probably still too much of a "nice guy".
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Now, THAT is a very interesting definition. That's exactly how that girl made me feel with the expression on her face.... "you should not be a sexual creature". Or maybe just "I'm shocked that you are interested in me".ketostix said:What being a creep essentially means is someone doesn't like/understand you and it's their contention you should not be a sexual creature. Why they don't like you usually centers around you being quiet and not friendly and personable to them. The fact that "creep" means a hundred different things and it's not universally clear is just evidence that it really isn't based upon anything of substance.
Haha - good attitude. But my case is more serious than that - nobody actually called me anything - but they made me feel like a creep by the way they looked at me. I felt it in my heart for months....it seriously hurt.Enryu said:how can you have fun when you dont get called freak or weird or stupid at least twice a day?
Thanks man - that will be very helpful for me to keep in mind.ketostix said:As long as you're not a creep to all the people all the time, just being a creep to some of the people all the time is about par for the course.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Congratulations. I think this is a true inspiring success story. If you had Aspergers syndrom and are able to make cold approaches and have conversations -- wow - that's all I can say -- you got out of the psychological jail.MascaraSnake said:Dating I eased into slowly but surely (started to approach people online to sharpen my conversation skills), and I've almost mastered the cold approach now. Last month a girl I cold approached at a live show told me within a few minutes of talking to me that I came across as really confident and pleasant. A distinct improvement over what I got sophomore year, I can tell you that.
The only thing I still have trouble with is eye contact...it's a really hard thing to master and I still need tips on it from time to time.Luke Skywalker said:Congratulations. I think this is a true inspiring success story. If you had Aspergers syndrom and are able to make cold approaches and have conversations -- wow - that's all I can say -- you got out of the psychological jail.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.