I'm not talking about being shy or introvert. I'm talking about being legitimately socially retarded. What if the part of your brain that involves great skills with women is entirely messed up? Could Rain Man become a ladies man?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What if you're a complete social retard?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
sageproduct
Banned
Seeing as this was pretty much my background, I'd say the first step is just to be nice to people. forget being a man or anything else, someone who completely lacks social skills just needs to be nice to people so that at the very least he can have some conversations with people. After acquiring at least some social intelligence, he can begin to develop game.
Yeah, but should I worry about the girl taking advantage of me or making me a doormat?Jhcl4000 said:Be nice, as in no attempts to flirt, tease, C&F, or any other DJ techniques, just try to converse.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I'm sort of mentally handicapped. I've been an extreme extrovert for the past 5 years but that hasn't caused me to stop being a social retard.Jhcl4000 said:Can I ask why you made this topic in the first place? Are you in some way ACTUALLY mentally handicapped, or are you just like a lot of the guys here and not great/comfortable with talking with random people?
I was asking about the nice thing because it seems like a bad idea. It seems that girls usually take advantage of the guys who are more socially retarded.
sageproduct
Banned
How are you an extreme extrovert and socially retarded?
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Hard Q to answer as the only experience I have with this dates back to high school.
The guy I am thinking of was very outgoing, but definitely not fully developed mentally. He wasn't mentally retarded as in down's syndrome or something extreme, either. He pulled about as much ass as anyone I can think of back then and his pad was a regular hang out for the most desirable chicks despite probably never having thought about pulling ass or whether or not that mattered. Again, I don't know how this played out later in life but several principles may have been at work:
1) Social desirability: He was popular and his dad was fairly well known and respected. His house was considered where the "cool kids partied". You can see how this just sets the momentum in action.
2) Reciprocity: He was very friendly and outgoing, which increases the chances that people to respond in kind, especially when combined with #1. The behavior of the first few then serves as social proof for the herd.
3) Proximity: We're simply more likely to hookup with people we are around. By virtue of always being where the party for hotties was, proximity alone dictates that man will pull some ass.
How can a social retard benefit from these lessons?
1) Increase social desirability by looking the part of being a fairly hip guy (but not gay, somehow guys confuse these two), cultivating some interests in life besides women (something to talk about, something to be happy about), in essence you're creating your own halo effect by maximizing looks and putting your unique and interesting personality out there. 2) Reciprocity-staying in one's shell does not make one cool, it simply makes it likely others won't come out their shells either. Armed with this knowledge, one should know that if stage #1 was successful, then being warm and friendly will be returned in kind. This isn't about causality, there will always be some random nags, but it's about the odds. If this stage is a massive fail, go back to step #1 and work on making yourself happy, really happy with life. 3) Proximity--there are only so many women in Pigfarker, Montana. You will most likely hookup with people who are somewhere near you, unless you own a private jet and spend a ton of time online. Therefore, you want to have a certain concentration of hot women nearby and maximize your exposure to said women. Apartments, cities, classes, campuses, clubs, dances, what have you increase your proximity to hot chicks.
As you spend time on each of these three principles, you can expect your results to steadily increase. The interesting thing here is everything you're doing is part of a wholistic lifestyle improvement. The increases in social support, education, life experience, etc increase your confidence/self-concept which increases your desirability to women which feedbacks to even higher self concept. Compared to sitting around debating for hours whether or not you should've called her on the 3rd day or the 5th.....
The guy I am thinking of was very outgoing, but definitely not fully developed mentally. He wasn't mentally retarded as in down's syndrome or something extreme, either. He pulled about as much ass as anyone I can think of back then and his pad was a regular hang out for the most desirable chicks despite probably never having thought about pulling ass or whether or not that mattered. Again, I don't know how this played out later in life but several principles may have been at work:
1) Social desirability: He was popular and his dad was fairly well known and respected. His house was considered where the "cool kids partied". You can see how this just sets the momentum in action.
2) Reciprocity: He was very friendly and outgoing, which increases the chances that people to respond in kind, especially when combined with #1. The behavior of the first few then serves as social proof for the herd.
3) Proximity: We're simply more likely to hookup with people we are around. By virtue of always being where the party for hotties was, proximity alone dictates that man will pull some ass.
How can a social retard benefit from these lessons?
1) Increase social desirability by looking the part of being a fairly hip guy (but not gay, somehow guys confuse these two), cultivating some interests in life besides women (something to talk about, something to be happy about), in essence you're creating your own halo effect by maximizing looks and putting your unique and interesting personality out there. 2) Reciprocity-staying in one's shell does not make one cool, it simply makes it likely others won't come out their shells either. Armed with this knowledge, one should know that if stage #1 was successful, then being warm and friendly will be returned in kind. This isn't about causality, there will always be some random nags, but it's about the odds. If this stage is a massive fail, go back to step #1 and work on making yourself happy, really happy with life. 3) Proximity--there are only so many women in Pigfarker, Montana. You will most likely hookup with people who are somewhere near you, unless you own a private jet and spend a ton of time online. Therefore, you want to have a certain concentration of hot women nearby and maximize your exposure to said women. Apartments, cities, classes, campuses, clubs, dances, what have you increase your proximity to hot chicks.
As you spend time on each of these three principles, you can expect your results to steadily increase. The interesting thing here is everything you're doing is part of a wholistic lifestyle improvement. The increases in social support, education, life experience, etc increase your confidence/self-concept which increases your desirability to women which feedbacks to even higher self concept. Compared to sitting around debating for hours whether or not you should've called her on the 3rd day or the 5th.....
Just because you're an extrovert doesn't mean you have great social skills.sageproduct said:How are you an extreme extrovert and socially retarded?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Blood Angel
Don Juan
Well, I have Asperger's Syndrome which is a bit like you describe. In short, it basically means that I don't naturally pick up on social stuff very easily. It's made the social aspect of my life difficult, but it's not impossible for me or anyone else with a similar issue to overcome. I probably won't ever become a pick-up artist that can over the period of a year lose track of how many chicks he bangs, but with work I can (and have) improved considerably. I guess it comes down to just how messed up the "social" part of the brain is. If it's completely fried and the person is irrecoverably Autistic or something, then there's probably not much hope. If the problem is less pronounced, than it can be overcome.Demystify said:Bump, anyone?
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Socially retarded, what does that mean?
Is that when you don't know how to fit in and can't make friends? Women end up having zero interest in you.
Is that when you don't know how to fit in and can't make friends? Women end up having zero interest in you.
Think of Cosmo Kramer or Jeff Goldblum, they have no trouble going out and talking to people, but they're still incredibly off on a social levelMaxtro said:Socially retarded, what does that mean?
Is that when you don't know how to fit in and can't make friends? Women end up having zero interest in you.
I'm in the Mood
Master Don Juan
I don't believe that anyone has to be so called "socially retarded."
It's your choice whether or not you make an effort to increase your social circle and social skills.
For the most part, social skills determine how you handle interactions with other people. Your usage of voice tone, body language, etc.
Learn by watching other people, or reading up on some informative material, then PRACTICE what you've learned.
Keep in mind that self-confidence is very important when it comes to social skills.
Btw, when you're busting on someone or using sarcasm, you can sometimes get away with saying things that, said seriously, would be socially awkward.
It's your choice whether or not you make an effort to increase your social circle and social skills.
For the most part, social skills determine how you handle interactions with other people. Your usage of voice tone, body language, etc.
Learn by watching other people, or reading up on some informative material, then PRACTICE what you've learned.
Keep in mind that self-confidence is very important when it comes to social skills.
Btw, when you're busting on someone or using sarcasm, you can sometimes get away with saying things that, said seriously, would be socially awkward.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
First of all, DEFINE what socially-retarded mean? Does that mean you don't know how to be COOL around people? or does that mean you just have some mental problem and regularly take medication?
If you think socially retarded means not being able to be the MOST DOMINANT, CHARMING person among your social circle, well, I'd say you DON'T have to be one.
Just focus on improving your lifestyle. Take care of yourself. Hit the gym, complete your studies, join some evening class...just work on yourself.
And try to BE NORMAL, don't assume any fake personality...just be as you are. that will do.
Ron.
If you think socially retarded means not being able to be the MOST DOMINANT, CHARMING person among your social circle, well, I'd say you DON'T have to be one.
Just focus on improving your lifestyle. Take care of yourself. Hit the gym, complete your studies, join some evening class...just work on yourself.
And try to BE NORMAL, don't assume any fake personality...just be as you are. that will do.
Ron.