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I am simply stating the differences on why men and women cheat. For whatever reason if she cheats he has to drop her and never get back with her. The woman doesn't sound quality anyway
They both sound like the relationship isn’t that healthy. But people do what you let them do so if she lets him treat her like a dog that will be cheated on when she doesn’t do everything on his terms, that’s ultimately on her. A higher value woman would walk away.

There may be different reasons why men and women cheat, but the common issue is the betrayal of someone’s trust, that’s a deal breaker for a lot of people, including women. And it should be.

Bottom line If the girlfriend or boyfriend isn’t working out, leave them and start fresh. It’s really that simple in my opinion, rather than cheating to prove a point or get needs met or whatever. Just move on life is short.
 

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Doesnt necessarily mean that. Im 2019 dating they expect worthy men to have other women. So cheating gains her respect.
No. Being desired by other women makes her man more attractive. That is vastly different than cheating on her.
Guy come on, how many women do you know that want to date men who they know will cheat on them?
I don’t know any woman who thinks, “Gee, my husband/boyfriend keeps cheating, that means he’s HIGH VALUE it makes me love and respect him even more. Betraying my trust and loyalty is hot.”
 

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Maybe...but the experience I'm coming from is an ex I was with, who realized I wasn't a cheater, then let her friends talk her into cheating on me.
This is most of my relationships. The second they realize I'm loyal they start to lose interest and frame goes.

Whether those women were relationship worthy to begin with if their attraction on you is based on nothing but fear is another story, but it's extremely common.
 

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Yes this is my LTR, could you elaborate on why? Also guys if you do this, you will temporarily lose your power until you establish frame again after the ****up(if you apologize) IMO you should never apologize, just admit you made a mistake.

I figured someone would say this, but i didnt know any other solution other to let her know that this was in no way a pass for her to do the same, or disrespect me (because she was getting bitchy), and if she did, we shouldnt even have anything then. Anyhow, if women are gonna cheat, they are gonna cheat. Doesn't matter what you did or do. There isnt much to do other than to just go on about my sht and hope it doesnt happen.
You already broke up once, now you cheated on her to "get what you wanted".

Even before this, this was pretty much doomed to failure. The reasons you broke up the first time didn't just magically disappear. Eventually they will cause you to break up again.

By cheating on her you basically now just made sure there will be fireworks when it finally does happen.
 

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They both sound like the relationship isn’t that healthy. But people do what you let them do so if she lets him treat her like a dog that will be cheated on when she doesn’t do everything on his terms, that’s ultimately on her. A higher value woman would walk away.

There may be different reasons why men and women cheat, but the common issue is the betrayal of someone’s trust, that’s a deal breaker for a lot of people, including women. And it should be.

Bottom line If the girlfriend or boyfriend isn’t working out, leave them and start fresh. It’s really that simple in my opinion, rather than cheating to prove a point or get needs met or whatever. Just move on life is short.
Whats messed up in 2019 is sometimes you HAVE to treat them like that.
 

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I never have bought into the whole cheating method when in a LTR, not on purpose anyways. If the girl is boring at sex and you want to make her inner freak come out, you need to experiment and tell her you want to try new stuff. You’ve slept with her enough to know where her spot is that makes her go crazy, just keep after that and don’t stop. I had a girl that would turn into the biggest FREAK you ever saw when I learned that kissing and biting her neck totally transformed her from a hohum sex partner to a absolute freak in the sack. I’ve learned for years that if I’m the best sex she’s ever had she’s not gonna let me go no matter what.
 

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How many women want to date a guy that they know won't cheat on them?
I’m going to venture a guess and say all of them. But if you want to confirm that start asking women you know if they would prefer to date someone who they know will cheat on them.
Unless you mean do women prefer to date a man who has no sex appeal to other women? Again, that’s vastly different than cheating.
Cheating is a behaviour, a choice to betray someone’s trust. Being attractive and having worth is different wouldn’t you say?
I get that you had women dump you for being loyal. Those women were not worthy LA.
Not all women will dump a decent guy. Sometimes I feel that you don’t see that because of your own experiences but those kinds of girls usually get what’s coming to them in the end.
 

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I’m going to venture a guess and say all of them. But if you want to confirm that start asking women you know if they would prefer to date someone who they know will cheat on them.
Unless you mean do women prefer to date a man who has no sex appeal to other women? Again, that’s vastly different than cheating.
Cheating is a behaviour, a choice to betray someone’s trust. Being attractive and having worth is different wouldn’t you say?
I get that you had women dump you for being loyal. Those women were not worthy LA.
Not all women will dump a decent guy. Sometimes I feel that you don’t see that because of your own experiences but those kinds of girls usually get what’s coming to them in the end.
In this thread we are talking about the women that legitimately find loyal men boring. Who cares if he has 1 trillion options, that won't trigger any emotions because you're not in any risk. The market options thing is a separate issue, we are talking about the emotional rollercoaster of a sketchy morally ambiguous man vs Ned Flanders.
 

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If you have to treat women like that, then you are choosing the wrong kind of women.
Agree for a stable LTR its the wrong one. But for occasional high intensity sexual encounters it works so long as you protect your personal life from her.
 

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What if man had to cheat in a disciplined fashion once or twice a month for the yin and yang to remain stable and for her to have a mysteriously high attraction to him. Cheat "respectfully" like Shaq.
 
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In principle this would make sense. But men and women cheat for different reasons. Men cheat to get their rocks off. They can have zero emotional attachment to the woman they cheat with and still very much care for and love their LTR.

Women do not cheat for this reason. 90% of the time if they cheat it's because they are getting an emotional connection with someone else. They are cheating physically and emotionally. If a woman cheats you HAVE to drop her. If a man cheats it's far more likely to work itself out.
I disagree, women cheat for the same reason anyone cheats, variety.

Know plenty of women/fvcked plenty of women who liked having casual hookups on the side while being in LTR.....

They want to be with there man but they still like sexual variety, you act as if women are emotionally attached to the men there having sex with.

So a women who has a boyfriend gets drunk on a girls night out and has a one night stand with a hot guy has nothing to do with a emotional connection lol
She doesn't even know the guy, it's just a hookup or "it's just a ****" as they say.

Blue pill men who still have this Disney channel view of women think that women cheat for emotional reasons lol
 

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I disagree, women cheat for the same reason anyone cheats, variety.

Know plenty of women/fvcked plenty of women who liked having casual hookups on the side while being in LTR.....

They want to be with there man but they still like sexual variety, you act as if women are emotionally attached to the men there having sex with.

So a women who has a boyfriend gets drunk on a girls night out and has a one night stand with a hot guy has nothing to do with a emotional connection lol
She doesn't even know the guy, it's just a hookup or "it's just a ****" as they say.

Blue pill men who still have this Disney channel view of women think that women cheat for emotional reasons lol
Emotional connection does not have to mean love emotion. Trust me I am far from the Disney view.

10% of cheating occurs as you say. Maybe 20%. I have had women cheat on their men with me too, including wives and 5+ year relationships. But most often cheating is done in the form of monkey branching and doesn't happen one night stand.
 

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most often cheating is done in the form of monkey branching and doesn't happen one night stand.
You need to get out more if you think this, Disney view is still within you.

No man with any experience with women would say something like this, all you gotta do is go out to a bar or club and see girls getting fvcked in the bathroom while there boyfriends are looking for them
 

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He thinks it DHV on him that he can cheat with her bff and 'his woman' will not only go back to him, but the bedroom is now his personal circus

SMH
 

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I disagree, women cheat for the same reason anyone cheats, variety.

Know plenty of women/fvcked plenty of women who liked having casual hookups on the side while being in LTR.....

They want to be with there man but they still like sexual variety, you act as if women are emotionally attached to the men there having sex with.

So a women who has a boyfriend gets drunk on a girls night out and has a one night stand with a hot guy has nothing to do with a emotional connection lol
She doesn't even know the guy, it's just a hookup or "it's just a ****" as they say.

Blue pill men who still have this Disney channel view of women think that women cheat for emotional reasons lol
While this is true, it depends on many factors one of the main ones is the market value of her BF, trust me if she knows how great of a catch you are, the chances of her stepping out are minimal.

Women don't cheat for variety, they cheat for unsatisfaction. You got boring, she got bored, its not even a relationship, boring routine, or hypergamy(someone better showed up).

This means you AT LEAST, have to be satisfying her in bed. Focused on having your sht together(Money and game) and have set relationship boundaries. And even having all that is no guarantee, like I said before. If she is going to do it, she will do it if someone with higher smv shows up, unless you have a real solid emotional attachment developed like I have with her for a few years.

For all you BP guys thinking that a woman has to be emotionally involved to cheat, this is wrong. All it requires is a bit of alcohol and their true nature reveals.

This is why based on her nights out you determine if that is a red flag to you. A woman does need to be emotionally involved with someone else to branch swing, and have lost respect for you.



What if man had to cheat in a disciplined fashion once or twice a month for the yin and yang to remain stable and for her to have a mysteriously high attraction to him. Cheat "respectfully" like Shaq.
This is funny because even though her bff was a 8. i only fked her 5 minutes and told her to get off,while shaming her for doing that to her friend, she bawled and promised not to say anything. This is where I got a huge advantage, by fessing up to my girl the next day, while her bff said nothing about it.

But yeah guys if you do cheat, it's better not to say anything but imply it through being distant, and indifferent/busy. And even if you do it, be prepared to be swallowed by guilt.
 
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