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What has happened to James Bond?

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Damn after watching that video of James bong slapping women, they have made bond into a straight up biatch

Even though I own casino royal on blu ray, I was thinking while watching, that bond is turned into a pu$$y he fell in love with that chick in the movie and fell into her trap

That would have never happen in the old movies

I liked the bond before Craig though, the guy that was in ms.doubtfire
 

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Zerro said:
A lot of you are ignoring that this reboot trilogy is supposed to be the beginning of his 007 career, starting with the first novel (Casino Royale). Skyfall ends with him much more resembling the Bond of old.
You are right my friend.
 

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This is just so true, what the OP has written.

I started to think this even before the latest Skyfall movie came out. I decided to watch Quantum of Solace again a few months ago, because I'd only seen it once before, with my friends at the cinema when it first came out, and I had sort of been sexting some slvt during the whole movie and I didn't really remember what it was about.

So I sat down to watch it, and man within minutes I began to see right through their pathetic ultra-leftist trope, and it disgusted me.

I mean, the main plot element of that movie is Bond's epic quest, on a do or die mission... to stop some Euro-trash douche from gaining monopoly control over the water supply in Bolivia.

Wait... what? The water supply in Bolivia?!? Not the world's largest depository of gold, not some satellite space laser which can destroy a city, not avert global nuclear war, no. Bond's main pre-occupation is saving the water supply in an insignificant third world country.

Its just ridiculous, it makes no sense, until you find out (which I didn't know until I researched it) is that this Bolivian water privatisation business is some sort of Cause célèbre amongst radical left-wing marxist feminst types.

Apparently it actually happened in the 90's or some sh1t, some South American country tried to privatise the water supply (*sounds like a good idea if you ask an economic rationalist like me), and the marxist-leftist feminists all got their knickers in a twist about it or some such nonsense.

And this is just emblematic of the whole film, it was all marxist-feminist nonsense. http://www.creators.com/opinion/mona-charen/quantum-of-nonsense.html

Did you know that Quantum of Solace was the first ever Bond film, after 21 previous films, where Bond didn't fvck the Bond girl? I really hate left-wingers for what they've done to my hero.

And Bond is my hero, I model myself on Connery's Bond... He was just soooo awesome, soooo alpha, so ****y and witty and in control. He was the ideal man, I still watch those Bond films and try to emulate him.

But the left has hijacked Bond, and it is the saddest act of vandalism to me in the world.
 

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Backbreaker, on the reboot series. Where do you think we should take Bond in the next Film? Considering all the new factors including the new M. And the addition of Q.
 

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d!ckmojo said:
This is just so true, what the OP has written.

I started to think this even before the latest Skyfall movie came out. I decided to watch Quantum of Solace again a few months ago, because I'd only seen it once before, with my friends at the cinema when it first came out, and I had sort of been sexting some slvt during the whole movie and I didn't really remember what it was about.

So I sat down to watch it, and man within minutes I began to see right through their pathetic ultra-leftist trope, and it disgusted me.

I mean, the main plot element of that movie is Bond's epic quest, on a do or die mission... to stop some Euro-trash douche from gaining monopoly control over the water supply in Bolivia.

Wait... what? The water supply in Bolivia?!? Not the world's largest depository of gold, not some satellite space laser which can destroy a city, not avert global nuclear war, no. Bond's main pre-occupation is saving the water supply in an insignificant third world country.

Its just ridiculous, it makes no sense, until you find out (which I didn't know until I researched it) is that this Bolivian water privatisation business is some sort of Cause célèbre amongst radical left-wing marxist feminst types.

Apparently it actually happened in the 90's or some sh1t, some South American country tried to privatise the water supply (*sounds like a good idea if you ask an economic rationalist like me), and the marxist-leftist feminists all got their knickers in a twist about it or some such nonsense.

And this is just emblematic of the whole film, it was all marxist-feminist nonsense. http://www.creators.com/opinion/mona-charen/quantum-of-nonsense.html

Did you know that Quantum of Solace was the first ever Bond film, after 21 previous films, where Bond didn't fvck the Bond girl? I really hate left-wingers for what they've done to my hero.

And Bond is my hero, I model myself on Connery's Bond... He was just soooo awesome, soooo alpha, so ****y and witty and in control. He was the ideal man, I still watch those Bond films and try to emulate him.

But the left has hijacked Bond, and it is the saddest act of vandalism to me in the world.
Completely agree with such lines.

Regarding skyfalls, I didnt particularly like the fact that the whole movie was based on some "feeling-personal" narration engine...so a bad guy whi us butt hurt and wants to hurt the old women untill spy-save-a-ho bond protects her?

They bother to put the burned spied thing just to dont make it look too similar to a romantic movie...except that the girl is not a girl but an old woman which bond (thankfully) doesnt bang.

The closest we had to a bond girl this time was either that girl who missed the shot with the sniper rifle or that other one which got killed in less than 20 minutes, at least bond managed to have some action in the shower...

And the final part? didnt know mc gyver was a drilling instructor at the m16 agency nor that the final examination was supervised from the a-team.

Sure it was a pleasable action movie but not comparable to masterpieces like goldfinger, for your eyes only or octopvssy.
 

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I thought the movie was okay. The implementation of one centralized bad guy instead of an organization was refreshing. The bringing back of the old school Aston Martin was cool.

But not something I would go out and buy/download right away. Casino Royale was the best of the new series in my own opinion.
 

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these last three movies sucked soo bad. What a waste of hollywood money, all this cash could have been spent so much better

just think of how great newer versions of old bond classics like moonraker, a view to a kill, and dr. no would be if they had been remade instead of this trilogy garbage
 

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Vice said:
I thought the movie was okay. The implementation of one centralized bad guy instead of an organization was refreshing. The bringing back of the old school Aston Martin was cool.

But not something I would go out and buy/download right away. Casino Royale was the best of the new series in my own opinion.
Casino Royale is definately a classic.
 

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Vice said:
I thought the movie was okay. The implementation of one centralized bad guy instead of an organization was refreshing. The bringing back of the old school Aston Martin was cool.

But not something I would go out and buy/download right away. Casino Royale was the best of the new series in my own opinion.
Casino Royale is definately a classic.
Yeah, but that's because the script was already written (in novel form), and the filmmakers had no choice but to stick closely to the original source material.

But then, marxist-feminists script-writers hijacked Bond for the next two films, and decidedly trashed an essential and integral part of Bond's mythological ethos and persona: his womanising.

Its bullsh1t. The more and more I think about it, the more it p1sses me off

If you're a Marxist-feminist, you obviously don't like James Bond, so leave him alone! Don't think you can bust in and change him to suit your particular ideological extremity. Just let us enjoy Bond like we have for 21 films and take your last two pieces of turds you produced and die.

They just don't "get" what Bond is all about, namely: unswerving loyalty to the Nation State and the Crown (as opposed to Marxist-feminists who are opposed to Nationalism and Patriotism and Royalty), dry witted casual sexism (which is a red flag to marxist femininsts, because they have no sense of humour), and wanton seduction of scantily clad, doe-eyed, absolute babes with ridiculous, demeaning names (like ***** Galore).

What I want to see in the next film is Bond seducing for real and having sex with at least three gorgeous Bond girls, but not becoming emotionally entangled, just pumping and dumping them. And more dry sexist wit from Bond, and less of this incessant Political Correctness.
 

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I saw it last night. It was okay. The third act was pretty boring. To be fair, he does nail two women in the film; an anonymous one in his beach hut, and the prostitute on the boat.

Also, Bond has from time to time been emo and sentimental. In "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" he professes his love for one woman and marries her, then cries when she is killed. It's the closest thing a Bond film has come to being a chick flick. (Probably why it's one of the least-popular, that and it's Lazenby.)

I do enjoy it better when Bond is more fun-loving, with less baggage. Craig is way too pouty. In Casino Royale, it seemed okay because it was his formative years and they were showing his "unplugging" if you will. But Skyfall was basically about two brothers with Oedipus complexes. Since when do we care about M so much? The end felt like an Old West shootout on steroids, and there was really no trickery or innovation. Every time Bond is in a fix, he just grabs a crony's gun somehow and the problem is solved. There were quite a few times I found myself bored and wishing the movie would hurry up. I did enjoy the scene in the casino in Macau with the monitor lizard - that kind of felt old-school.

In my opinion, a good Bond movie should almost be like a police procedural. Less character, more story.
 

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jammer said:
these last three movies sucked soo bad. What a waste of hollywood money, all this cash could have been spent so much better

just think of how great newer versions of old bond classics like moonraker, a view to a kill, and dr. no would be if they had been remade instead of this trilogy garbage
Different audience.
 

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d!ckmojo said:
Yeah, but that's because the script was already written (in novel form), and the filmmakers had no choice but to stick closely to the original source material.

But then, marxist-feminists script-writers hijacked Bond for the next two films, and decidedly trashed an essential and integral part of Bond's mythological ethos and persona: his womanising.

Its bullsh1t. The more and more I think about it, the more it p1sses me off

If you're a Marxist-feminist, you obviously don't like James Bond, so leave him alone! Don't think you can bust in and change him to suit your particular ideological extremity. Just let us enjoy Bond like we have for 21 films and take your last two pieces of turds you produced and die.

They just don't "get" what Bond is all about, namely: unswerving loyalty to the Nation State and the Crown (as opposed to Marxist-feminists who are opposed to Nationalism and Patriotism and Royalty), dry witted casual sexism (which is a red flag to marxist femininsts, because they have no sense of humour), and wanton seduction of scantily clad, doe-eyed, absolute babes with ridiculous, demeaning names (like ***** Galore).

What I want to see in the next film is Bond seducing for real and having sex with at least three gorgeous Bond girls, but not becoming emotionally entangled, just pumping and dumping them. And more dry sexist wit from Bond, and less of this incessant Political Correctness.
Well since the 90's Bond has been in a Matriarch obedience mode. Thank goodness that's finally over.
 

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if i were them i would remake Moonraker. you can't possibly **** that up.

1. it's a good plot
2. it deals wtih outer space and we are in 2012 almost 2013 the **** we coudl do graphic wise with that would be unreal
3. on it's on already it's a top 5 bond film
4. you can get a new hot girl to play the role


this would be a box office smash
 

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backbreaker said:
if i were them i would remake Moonraker. you can't possibly **** that up.

1. it's a good plot
2. it deals wtih outer space and we are in 2012 almost 2013 the **** we coudl do graphic wise with that would be unreal
3. on it's on already it's a top 5 bond film
4. you can get a new hot girl to play the role


this would be a box office smash
Agree and since they kicked out the woman as M after skyfall, they could re-up the mandatory politically correct coefficient by hiring a black guy as jaw?

Do you agree or you find it kinda trollish?
 

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Yeah Moonraker could deal with a serious remake, that would be awesome. But the way things stand, I wouldn't watch it. Well I would, but I'd be bitter about it.

They need to recast Bond to some 6'2, dark-haired, 33~35 year old actor, and they need to get rid of the incessant PC platitudes which plague the modern Bond incarnations.

Do you know Goldfinger? Its regularly regarded as the very best Bond film bar none, and I agree. I watched it yesterday, and the thing which struck me was the way Bond forces himself onto Pvssy Galore in the hay barn.

She tries to stop him, but he basically rapes her, and then at the end we find out that being seduced by Bond made her change her heart and defect to the Good side.

So the basic message of Goldfinger is that rape saved the day. 60,000 people would have died and economic chaos would have broken out in the world, except, luckily, Bond had the presence of mind to rape some lesbian chick when he had a chance to.

I just think that's so awesome, and I know the day will come again, maybe 50 years in the future, when such a message is once again accepted as a wholesome moral message to portray in films.

And this isn't just some film, any old film. Goldfinger was so popular it was a bigger cultural phenomenon that Beatlemania. It was the first ever Blockbuster, bigger than The Avengers or The Dark Knight or Avatar. It forced cinemas to stay open 24hrs around the clock to satisfy demand.

It was so epically popular, and still is to this day, and the main message is that rape saves the day. I just think that's such a wonderful thing.
 

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Not that I think it was really rape btw. Just good old fashioned alpha male sexual assertiveness.

But this is what the feminists have re-classified as rape and turned into a crime.

THis is what Julian Assange is wanted in Sweden for. And, tbh, this feminist hysteria needs to be stopped.

More often than not, what most women need IS a sexually assertive alpha male to force himself onto her against her protestations.

As Goldfinger shows us, sometimes that's exactly what's needed to save the world.
 

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I loved skyfall better than the last bond film .Awesome track stunts and gunfights but roger moore is my fave:)
 

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roger moore is my fave too the best bond films are a view to a kill, moonraker, the spy who loved me, and for your eyes only. these movies should be remade instead of crap like casino royale.
 

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He's not an AFC. He didn't even blink when the Asian chick was shot. He did however care about M because he was loyal and she cared about him just the same. I think we saw a mother son relationship because Bond was an orphan.

Also these movies are supposed to be a reboot of the series. We're supposed to see what happens to James as he slowly loses everything in his life and becomes 007.

He was new to the game and lost Vesper in Casino Royale. He got revenge and lost a piece of his soul in turn in Quantum of Solace. He lost his mother or parental figure and any sense of innocence when M died in Skyfall. His past is dead. He's now James Bond and he works for the new M who is not only male but knows the game inside and out.

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casino royale is a classic all right.. a classic example of a crap movie that is
I'm sure you liked Die Another Day. Have you even seen that? Watch it and then tell me Casino Royale is crap.
 
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