"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What happens when this sh!t doesn't work?

Flabbergasped?

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Before I get clowned for "whining", know that I've been in the field for months now. I've gotten dozens of kiss-closes, half a dozen fcloses, but not enough to be able to solve my various issues.

Tonight was especially bad. I pretty much got blown out of every set. The few that hooked, I wasn't even close to being considered sexual, even though I push/pulled, DHV'd, etc. The girls would literally ditch me mid-conversation for another guy.

What pisses me if is that I'm not a novice. I'm not clueless, I don't get oneitis, I'm not an AFC. When I play my game to it's full force, I'm still getting blown out mid-conversation? After a couple of months and hundreds of approaches under my belt? I must be one hell of a boring guy.

Kinda depressing.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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must've been the booger hanging off the end of your nose

just kidding

what exactly is your game anyway? is there any authenticity to it, or are you just running through a list of tricks hoping that somewhere at the end of it there's a lay.

AKA are you coming across like a human being? or a cartoon character
 

Lust

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Flabbergasped? said:
Before I get clowned for "whining", know that I've been in the field for months now. I've gotten dozens of kiss-closes, half a dozen fcloses, but not enough to be able to solve my various issues.

Tonight was especially bad. I pretty much got blown out of every set. The few that hooked, I wasn't even close to being considered sexual, even though I push/pulled, DHV'd, etc. The girls would literally ditch me mid-conversation for another guy.

What pisses me if is that I'm not a novice. I'm not clueless, I don't get oneitis, I'm not an AFC. When I play my game to it's full force, I'm still getting blown out mid-conversation? After a couple of months and hundreds of approaches under my belt? I must be one hell of a boring guy.

Kinda depressing.
Ok listen carefully.

The Game is flawed. You are taught all the little bits and pieces of the "Game", what the neg does, what disqualifying/qualifying does, blah blah.

What WHY?

We forget a lot of times that the women here are HUMAN, and have NEEDS.

Why do women really go out?

People do things because it meets their needs. When we're hungry, we meet our need to satisfy our hunger and sustain our bodies with adequate intake of energy. When we're tired, we meet our need for rest by sleeping.

WHAT NEEDS ARE BEING MET WHEN WOMEN GO OUT?

Women go out with a want/need/desire to flirt/shag a hot guy, being seen doing that by her peer group/social circle plus a need to go out and have a good time and screw around with the social scene with her peers.

Once you know her needs, you can fulfill them for her.

We have to realise that most people apply these techniques/gambits in-field without understanding exactly what it does, what needs it fulfills for the women you are applying it to.

For instance, the neg. You were told that you use the neg to lower a woman's value relative to yours. But why?

If you think about it, why would a woman want a guy to act like a c*nt to her? It doesn't make sense. It goes against the rules of reciprocity.

But let's look at it from her NEEDS point of view. By throwing out a neg, you are fulfilling her need to interact with a man who's value is at least as high as hers, AND you fulfill her need to have a bit of FUN, because that's all a neg should be, some playful conflict. So now we understand why a sh*tty comment will get you a good response.

Bottom line is, identify her NEEDS. We are taught to do things because we know they are the right things to do, and we do them to elicit a response, but what we are not taught is WHEN to do them.

This is a missing piece in many aspiring DJs/PUAs game, and if you are a novice yourself, and have got the basics down, perhaps you should have a ponder about this too.

Good luck,

-Lust.

Edit. I have not gone into this nearly as deep as I should have but the post get's the ideas across, if you would like me to elaborate anything, just let me know.
 

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My guess is that your trying too hard. Your game should be as though your not actually trying with all these women, they're seeing right through you because your trying to hard. Lean back man and let things flow instead of forcing it.
 

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lust,

please elaborate. i just f_cked up bigtime because of what you just talked about. i wish i could've read this yesterday.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Lust

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hover411 said:
lust,

please elaborate. i just f_cked up bigtime because of what you just talked about. i wish i could've read this yesterday.
What do you want me to elaborate on?

Do you understand the basic concept?
 
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