Flabbergasped? said:
Before I get clowned for "whining", know that I've been in the field for months now. I've gotten dozens of kiss-closes, half a dozen fcloses, but not enough to be able to solve my various issues.
Tonight was especially bad. I pretty much got blown out of every set. The few that hooked, I wasn't even close to being considered sexual, even though I push/pulled, DHV'd, etc. The girls would literally ditch me mid-conversation for another guy.
What pisses me if is that I'm not a novice. I'm not clueless, I don't get oneitis, I'm not an AFC. When I play my game to it's full force, I'm still getting blown out mid-conversation? After a couple of months and hundreds of approaches under my belt? I must be one hell of a boring guy.
Kinda depressing.
Ok listen carefully.
The Game is flawed. You are taught all the little bits and pieces of the "Game", what the neg does, what disqualifying/qualifying does, blah blah.
What WHY?
We forget a lot of times that the women here are HUMAN, and have NEEDS.
Why do women really go out?
People do things because it meets their needs. When we're hungry, we meet our need to satisfy our hunger and sustain our bodies with adequate intake of energy. When we're tired, we meet our need for rest by sleeping.
WHAT NEEDS ARE BEING MET WHEN WOMEN GO OUT?
Women go out with a want/need/desire to flirt/shag a hot guy, being seen doing that by her peer group/social circle plus a need to go out and have a good time and screw around with the social scene with her peers.
Once you know her needs, you can fulfill them for her.
We have to realise that most people apply these techniques/gambits in-field without understanding exactly what it does, what needs it fulfills for the women you are applying it to.
For instance, the neg. You were told that you use the neg to lower a woman's value relative to yours. But why?
If you think about it, why would a woman want a guy to act like a c*nt to her? It doesn't make sense. It goes against the rules of reciprocity.
But let's look at it from her NEEDS point of view. By throwing out a neg, you are fulfilling her need to interact with a man who's value is at least as high as hers, AND you fulfill her need to have a bit of FUN, because that's all a neg should be, some playful conflict. So now we understand why a sh*tty comment will get you a good response.
Bottom line is, identify her NEEDS. We are taught to do things because we know they are the right things to do, and we do them to elicit a response, but what we are not taught is WHEN to do them.
This is a missing piece in many aspiring DJs/PUAs game, and if you are a novice yourself, and have got the basics down, perhaps you should have a ponder about this too.
Good luck,
-Lust.
Edit. I have not gone into this nearly as deep as I should have but the post get's the ideas across, if you would like me to elaborate anything, just let me know.
