"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What happens when this sh!t doesn't work?

Flabbergasped?

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Before I get clowned for "whining", know that I've been in the field for months now. I've gotten dozens of kiss-closes, half a dozen fcloses, but not enough to be able to solve my various issues.

Tonight was especially bad. I pretty much got blown out of every set. The few that hooked, I wasn't even close to being considered sexual, even though I push/pulled, DHV'd, etc. The girls would literally ditch me mid-conversation for another guy.

What pisses me if is that I'm not a novice. I'm not clueless, I don't get oneitis, I'm not an AFC. When I play my game to it's full force, I'm still getting blown out mid-conversation? After a couple of months and hundreds of approaches under my belt? I must be one hell of a boring guy.

Kinda depressing.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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must've been the booger hanging off the end of your nose

just kidding

what exactly is your game anyway? is there any authenticity to it, or are you just running through a list of tricks hoping that somewhere at the end of it there's a lay.

AKA are you coming across like a human being? or a cartoon character
 

Lust

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Flabbergasped? said:
Before I get clowned for "whining", know that I've been in the field for months now. I've gotten dozens of kiss-closes, half a dozen fcloses, but not enough to be able to solve my various issues.

Tonight was especially bad. I pretty much got blown out of every set. The few that hooked, I wasn't even close to being considered sexual, even though I push/pulled, DHV'd, etc. The girls would literally ditch me mid-conversation for another guy.

What pisses me if is that I'm not a novice. I'm not clueless, I don't get oneitis, I'm not an AFC. When I play my game to it's full force, I'm still getting blown out mid-conversation? After a couple of months and hundreds of approaches under my belt? I must be one hell of a boring guy.

Kinda depressing.
Ok listen carefully.

The Game is flawed. You are taught all the little bits and pieces of the "Game", what the neg does, what disqualifying/qualifying does, blah blah.

What WHY?

We forget a lot of times that the women here are HUMAN, and have NEEDS.

Why do women really go out?

People do things because it meets their needs. When we're hungry, we meet our need to satisfy our hunger and sustain our bodies with adequate intake of energy. When we're tired, we meet our need for rest by sleeping.

WHAT NEEDS ARE BEING MET WHEN WOMEN GO OUT?

Women go out with a want/need/desire to flirt/shag a hot guy, being seen doing that by her peer group/social circle plus a need to go out and have a good time and screw around with the social scene with her peers.

Once you know her needs, you can fulfill them for her.

We have to realise that most people apply these techniques/gambits in-field without understanding exactly what it does, what needs it fulfills for the women you are applying it to.

For instance, the neg. You were told that you use the neg to lower a woman's value relative to yours. But why?

If you think about it, why would a woman want a guy to act like a c*nt to her? It doesn't make sense. It goes against the rules of reciprocity.

But let's look at it from her NEEDS point of view. By throwing out a neg, you are fulfilling her need to interact with a man who's value is at least as high as hers, AND you fulfill her need to have a bit of FUN, because that's all a neg should be, some playful conflict. So now we understand why a sh*tty comment will get you a good response.

Bottom line is, identify her NEEDS. We are taught to do things because we know they are the right things to do, and we do them to elicit a response, but what we are not taught is WHEN to do them.

This is a missing piece in many aspiring DJs/PUAs game, and if you are a novice yourself, and have got the basics down, perhaps you should have a ponder about this too.

Good luck,

-Lust.

Edit. I have not gone into this nearly as deep as I should have but the post get's the ideas across, if you would like me to elaborate anything, just let me know.
 

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My guess is that your trying too hard. Your game should be as though your not actually trying with all these women, they're seeing right through you because your trying to hard. Lean back man and let things flow instead of forcing it.
 

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lust,

please elaborate. i just f_cked up bigtime because of what you just talked about. i wish i could've read this yesterday.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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hover411 said:
lust,

please elaborate. i just f_cked up bigtime because of what you just talked about. i wish i could've read this yesterday.
What do you want me to elaborate on?

Do you understand the basic concept?
 
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