cordoncordon
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Squirrels, it was over the ex, not because he didn't f her that night.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
What happened?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Victory Unlimited
Master Don Juan
Yes...this is how I interpreted the situation as well.
kingwilliam
Senior Don Juan
The situation is purely physical at this point........this girl is smokin hot, gordeous.......I would show a pic, but......well
anyway..............I will update later
anyway..............I will update later
cordoncordon
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I mean think about it. If you went out many times with some chick you were really attracted to and on the first night you are in bed with her you make out, etc, but she doesn't let you F her, are you going to stop seeing her because of ONE time that she said no? I highly doubt that. If anything it's gonna give you more respect for her and make you want her even more.
I think sometimes there are some on this board that over play this "gotta be a man at all times" card. I just don't think it is that cut and dried.
I think sometimes there are some on this board that over play this "gotta be a man at all times" card. I just don't think it is that cut and dried.
Victory Unlimited
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Yo Cordoncordon,
I agree, the "gotta be a man at all times" card is usually played INCORRECTLY by men who equate the ENTIRETY of their manhood with ONLY the frequency and proficiency with which they can throw their dikks.
But in a lot of cases (and I would argue "MOST"), sex, even GREAT SEX alone is not enough to keep ALL women coming back to you INDEFINITELY. This is why it is so important to have other great things of value about yourself that attracts a woman into your presence rather than JUST unbridled sexuality.
Now having said that, I do AGREE that the sexual component is of PRIMARY importance. But AFTER that, unless you can follow up with some form of individual SUBSTANCE--------then that chick who ONLY thinks of you as a dikk will soon realize the "rest of who you are" really IS inconsequential.
And BECAUSE of that limited perception she NOW has of you, "sooner" rather than later, she'll surely be off to the next "DIKK"...
March on.
I agree, the "gotta be a man at all times" card is usually played INCORRECTLY by men who equate the ENTIRETY of their manhood with ONLY the frequency and proficiency with which they can throw their dikks.
But in a lot of cases (and I would argue "MOST"), sex, even GREAT SEX alone is not enough to keep ALL women coming back to you INDEFINITELY. This is why it is so important to have other great things of value about yourself that attracts a woman into your presence rather than JUST unbridled sexuality.
Now having said that, I do AGREE that the sexual component is of PRIMARY importance. But AFTER that, unless you can follow up with some form of individual SUBSTANCE--------then that chick who ONLY thinks of you as a dikk will soon realize the "rest of who you are" really IS inconsequential.
And BECAUSE of that limited perception she NOW has of you, "sooner" rather than later, she'll surely be off to the next "DIKK"...
March on.
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
i think i am going to print this off and stick it on my wallInterceptor said:
And king'
I think you 'think' too highly of women, or you have some wrong 'programming' in there.
No matter what you 'think' you know, know one thing:
WOMEN LOVE SEX TOO!
In that read the rest what you want.
There are two schools of argument here, both are right, based on the level where king is.
fundimentally, king you need to re-frame your beliefs around women, sex is not a negative bad thing, sex is an enjoyable experiance!
Maybe you should reflect to why you felt the need to 'hold' off and re-think those belief's.
kingwilliam
Senior Don Juan
I love sex. I wake up in the morning and shower so I can have sex. I cook and eat breakfast so I can have sex. I drive to work so I can have sex. I go to lunch so I can have sex. I drive home to have sex. I go out so I can have sex.
I have pondered what I was thinking and came to the conclusion that basically I have a lot of respect for this particular woman. As a lover or a friend. Also we had both been drinking and for some reason I just didn't want it to happen that way.
To make a long story short, she came over last night completely sober and we were haning out watching some TV.....I grilled some steaks, and stone cold sober I took her into my room, and on my King Size bed, and let her dip into endless supply of orgasms I will happily provide her. I feel much better....... ahhhhhh
P.S. and YES, that quote above there belongs on every bathroom mirror for every single man in America
I have pondered what I was thinking and came to the conclusion that basically I have a lot of respect for this particular woman. As a lover or a friend. Also we had both been drinking and for some reason I just didn't want it to happen that way.
To make a long story short, she came over last night completely sober and we were haning out watching some TV.....I grilled some steaks, and stone cold sober I took her into my room, and on my King Size bed, and let her dip into endless supply of orgasms I will happily provide her. I feel much better....... ahhhhhh
P.S. and YES, that quote above there belongs on every bathroom mirror for every single man in America
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
The Lord only works through me, I am but a mere messenger....
Here's one that is also fitting:
Psalm 3:1 from the Holy Book of Manly Men
Here this, O Men, that thou hast come to this world to Love and Be Loved. For knowest that in thine truest Heart, the Lord doth knoweth what Lies therein.
Be at peace that the Lord doth align with thine most Masculine of Intentions, and that doth makest thy Lord proud, as Good Sons that ye are.
But be wary, my Sons, for the World is still not at Peace with thy Truest Masculine Nature, granted by thine Father, for there are the Wicked, and the Envious of thine Masculinity and seek to shame it, or banish it altogether. Be not one of them, for if thou doest reject thine God given Gift of Masculinity, knowest this...that the Lord will pronounce unto thee a most Wicked toll.
For thou shalt be shamed and abandoned by thine own Father, and a most Hellish Punishment shall be cast upon thee.
Here's one that is also fitting:
Psalm 3:1 from the Holy Book of Manly Men
Here this, O Men, that thou hast come to this world to Love and Be Loved. For knowest that in thine truest Heart, the Lord doth knoweth what Lies therein.
Be at peace that the Lord doth align with thine most Masculine of Intentions, and that doth makest thy Lord proud, as Good Sons that ye are.
But be wary, my Sons, for the World is still not at Peace with thy Truest Masculine Nature, granted by thine Father, for there are the Wicked, and the Envious of thine Masculinity and seek to shame it, or banish it altogether. Be not one of them, for if thou doest reject thine God given Gift of Masculinity, knowest this...that the Lord will pronounce unto thee a most Wicked toll.
For thou shalt be shamed and abandoned by thine own Father, and a most Hellish Punishment shall be cast upon thee.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
So basically you're OK with being the next best alternate? Granted, you failed to hit it while she was hot, but she's essentially telling you you'll do if she can't get back with the ex. Have fun with that. I'm not saying don't get after it with her, but don't think for a second she'll ever be your LTR girl. You'll never be priority one.kingwilliam said:
This is classic AFC rationalizing. As I posted earlier, de-sexualizing yourself doesn't separate you as a uniquely, sensitive guy who stands apart from "other guys", it only makes you more like the rest of the AFC herd who've bought the feminized mentality that they should identify themselves more with what women say they want in order to get laid. A woman is not going to want you anymore than when her bloodstream is swimming in hormones and endorphins due to physical attraction, and when you cool that off thinking she'll appreciate you more for delaying, she associates you with her own reasons for delaying sex - insecurity. Women delay sex, intentionally make guys wait for it and fillibuster to put a guy on hold because they're unsure of their conditions and the guy isn't their first priority. When a guy isn't confident enough in himself and his masculinity to take what she's willingly offering she makes this same connection.cordoncordon said:
squirrels
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If that's what you think.cordoncordon said:
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
kingwilliam
Senior Don Juan
Obviously it had something to do with the ex; as I said, I have been tearin that **** up for the last 4 nights..............
I'm with ya on this one.cordoncordon said:
It had everything to do with her and her ex, and nothing to do with william.
Sounds like she was "on a break" giving her the free pass she needed to clear her conscience enough to let another dude finger her wet pu$$y. He was an "intimacy surrogate".
I've been the boyfriend AND the other guy. Sucks both ways, but that's the way it is.
It could also be the fact that women have a very short emotional attention span. From "Oh....kingwilliam made me feel good, I want to see him again". To "Oh...my ex boyfriend just called me up after rejecting me last week. COMFORT FOOD! No risk in this scenario!" in a matter of a day.
HOWEVER.....
You should have fukked her. It's an insurance policy of sorts. Not a surefire way to get/keep the upperhand, but the dynamic of the relationship almost always changes in your favor as soon as you stick your willy inside her.
I found this out the "hard" way...lolVictory Unlimited said:
You gotta keep in mind that sometimes even "having things of value" isn't enough to keep them around. Sometimes the only thing that will keep them around is a "rock".
FUNK DAT.