What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

[HaleyBaron]

What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

It still exists, but looksmaxxing and other ---maxxing min/ max strats is the current meta. I also agree that the social and masculinity of young men has dropped considerably. Thank the feminist world for destroying and shaming all the masculine traits out of us. Btw, one of the biggest masculine traits is protecting your home, and we're told we're bigots and racist if we say anything to immigrations suddenly turning your town into new India or new Afghanistan.

However, the old tactics still work. Women can't help their biology. What is going against all men is that women not only are supported by the government, but they still have loads of money and options, making us men irrelevant.

The good side to this is that men are still the leaders, even if the globalist world is going against us. A woman instantly loses her power when she is outside the state in anyway.

 

[zekko]

When you say "women were the real seducers", what do you mean by this? Do you mean they charmed men into sleeping with them? They used sex appeal and body language to seduce men? Flirtatious?

Time was, all women had to do to be seductive was act feminine - act like women. You don't see that as much anymore.

 

[HaleyBaron]

To add to this, men are willing to throw other men under the bus for female and general public validation. In effect, men are acting like women in how they handle brotherhood and relationships. This only adds to how fu*cked the dynamics are. The fact celebrities and politicians, the ones in front of our eyes everyday, show off such traits is proof of society giving these traits a premium.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Ive always felt a lot of that stuff tried to turn people into someone fake instead of simply a better version of themselves.

 

[Cheeky_James]

This has not been my observation at all. Countless women go jogging at 5am and get kidnapped and raped. Or walk into the wrong car that they thought was their uber and go missing. Most women nowadays act like they live on cloud nine and are totally oblivious to the dangers of the world. Sure, if a woman lived in a third world country, she might look for protection. Maybe that’s why so many American men go to south east Asia to find love.

Hmmm yes there is a % of women that are that stupid enough to go out at 5am solo and run through parks in the half light,

But I would not extrapolate that small % out further . I see a lot of women jogging with fit male ‘exercise buddies’ also, that’d be a much bigger % I’d guesstimate.

Id point to the phenomenon of hot bodied strippers coupling with Bikie BadBoys or big bodybuilder BadBoy dudes. Those kinds of women, seek these guys for protection and safety.
Id extrapolate that out, as a good example of primal female behaviour.
Plus the dudes status and connection to party drugs also. Obvs.

and women’s preference for taller men. Obvs again.

 

[Cheeky_James]

What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

It still exists, but looksmaxxing and other ---maxxing min/ max strats is the current meta. I also agree that the social and masculinity of young men has dropped considerably. Thank the feminist world for destroying and shaming all the masculine traits out of us. Btw, one of the biggest masculine traits is protecting your home, and we're told we're bigots and racist if we say anything to immigrations suddenly turning your town into new India or new Afghanistan.

However, the old tactics still work. Women can't help their biology. What is going against all men is that women not only are supported by the government, but they still have loads of money and options, making us men irrelevant.

The good side to this is that men are still the leaders, even if the globalist world is going against us. A woman instantly loses her power when she is outside the state in anyway.

yes to this.
I would like to protect my home.
Is why Id like to own a colt AR15 assault rifle (with an M16A1-style birdcage flash suppressor) with the M203 grenade launcher attachment.
Just like Arnie/Dutch had in the Predator movie

with the desert eagle pistol sidearm also.
of course.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

yes to this.
I would like to protect my home.
Is why Id like to own a colt AR15 assault rifle (with an M16A1-style birdcage flash suppressor) with the M203 grenade launcher attachment.
Just like Arnie/Dutch had in the Predator movie

with the desert eagle pistol sidearm also.
of course.

Just get a sawed off shotgun so you can hit multiple intruders with one blast

 

[tksniper]

Just try to be a better version of yourself according to the highest image you ever had about yourself. You guys are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Just try to be a better version of yourself according to the highest image you ever had about yourself. You guys are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

Imo that’s an extremely vague self improvement plan. That’s my issue w that meta level advice .

If a newbie/inexperienced dude was super shy or ND /spectrum even , that’s not much to go on ,they have to firstly create a ‘higher image ‘ in their own head. ?? Where is this meant to come from(?) how would they know how to create this if they are clueless ..

and really hard to measure ‘progress’ to that advice . There’s no goals/improvement points to hit, except the end goal of an all around ‘better’ , ‘higher image of self’.

With your improvement for example Sniper

If your improvement was via bodybuilding + tattoos + wearing jewellry let’s say..maybe growing your hair longer (?idk) and growing a beard.
For a more attractive ideal Look of self..

Where did this ‘higher image’ come from?

I’ll guess it’s from some guy(s) you have seen / met along the way, that did well w women.

It’s influenced and orginates from the’ Best Practices’ you’ve seen of other more successful men and modelling their looks. Real guys.

 

[tksniper]

Imo that’s an extremely vague self improvement plan. That’s my issue w that meta level advice .

If a newbie/inexperienced dude was super shy or ND /spectrum even , that’s not much to go on ,they have to firstly create a ‘higher image ‘ in their own head. ?? Where is this meant to come from(?) how would they know how to create this if they are clueless ..

and really hard to measure ‘progress’ to that advice . There’s no goals/improvement points to hit, except the end goal of an all around ‘better’ , ‘higher image of self’.

With your improvement for example Sniper

If your improvement was via bodybuilding + tattoos + wearing jewellry let’s say..maybe growing your hair longer (?idk) and growing a beard.
For a more attractive ideal Look of self..

Where did this ‘higher image’ come from?

I’ll guess it’s from some guy(s) you have seen / met along the way, that did well w women.

It’s influenced and orginates from the’ Best Practices’ you’ve seen of other more successful men and modelling their looks. Real guys.

Your higher image comes from your heart. Your heart has way more intelligence than your brain.

 

[tksniper]

I get it. You don’t trust your heart because the world is so fvck up.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Looks
-Dominant /High Status Dress and Presentation (sharply dressed and groomed )

- Dominant physical frame re body : fit , strong, muscular etc

Behaviour ***
-Dominant Eye Contact
- Dominant Voice
- Dominant body language in the interaction
- Dominant conversational style / frame control
- Dominant strategy : ‘ a man with a plan ‘ and who is leading

there may be other lil bits I’ve left out
But that’s about the fundamental stuff of Alpha Traits
This man could also be described as “highly assertive” or “very confident”

I understand these are good traits, but I don't think it's going to make a difference for a guy that a woman has little to no initial attraction for.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I understand these are good traits, but I don't think it's going to make a difference for a guy that a woman has little to no initial attraction for.

Well, yes of course.
Its gonna be a yes/maybe/no in the blink of the womans eyes , re his attractiveness and bangeability.

But if its a yes/maybe after second 1 -still best practices re behaviour imo.

This kinda stuff is what women are feeling out for in the interaction /conversation and judgement.
The categorisation of a dude - into either Quick Sex category or Boyfriend type guy category.

I reckon its critical to in NightGame to get ONS/SNLs.
And just in general , best practice of looks and behaviour,

 

[zekko]

Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.

 

[characternote]

Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.

Absolutely.
I remember on RooshV forum, people would regularly get banned for even simply implying that her physical attraction to you is obviously important on a cold approach. Or if they commented on a lay report (maybe a report where the girl approached the guy and told him that he was hot) that his looks are what done the heavy lifting and not his pushpull lines etc - he would be banned. Completely insane lol. It's like I said about how the 'original' idea that was sold was taht you could literally be an old, bald, fat, broke geriatric, and if you failed to bang some super hot 18 year old, then it was always a 'game issue'. No other excuse would be tolerated lol (there are still posters and coaches scattered around on some subs and forums who preach this lol $$$)

But the funniest thing about it all was that, some years later (about a year before Roosh shut down that forum and went Jesus Freak on us), Roosh HIMSELF done a U-turn and in a blog post basically said (paraphrased of course!) "OK - After all of this time, i've come to the conclusion that your 'game' is simply the ability to close with the girls who are visually attracted to you. Nothing more than that. You can't use game to MAKE a girl attracted to you". From memory his post was inspired by some fairly extreme blackpilled things he'd seen on his most recent travelling trips at the time

Of course he never unbanned people or apologised to those who he'd got rid of haha

 

[Cheeky_James]

@characternote

here’s an excerpt from a great blog detailing all the gurus - and their edges -by Cameron Teone ( who rolled w them in the heyday of the PUA scene .. project Hollywood etc.

It’s an insightful read for anyone interested
http://attractwomenanywhere.com/blog/2009/04/26/everybody-has-an-edge-do-you/

Cameron’s blog is great and has lots of good goss/ reality of these guys.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.

Hell, if you said race had an impact, you had a whole lynch mob attacking you.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Absolutely.
I remember on RooshV forum, people would regularly get banned for even simply implying that her physical attraction to you is obviously important on a cold approach. Or if they commented on a lay report (maybe a report where the girl approached the guy and told him that he was hot) that his looks are what done the heavy lifting and not his pushpull lines etc - he would be banned. Completely insane lol. It's like I said about how the 'original' idea that was sold was taht you could literally be an old, bald, fat, broke geriatric, and if you failed to bang some super hot 18 year old, then it was always a 'game issue'. No other excuse would be tolerated lol (there are still posters and coaches scattered around on some subs and forums who preach this lol $$$)

But the funniest thing about it all was that, some years later (about a year before Roosh shut down that forum and went Jesus Freak on us), Roosh HIMSELF done a U-turn and in a blog post basically said (paraphrased of course!) "OK - After all of this time, i've come to the conclusion that your 'game' is simply the ability to close with the girls who are visually attracted to you. Nothing more than that. You can't use game to MAKE a girl attracted to you". From memory his post was inspired by some fairly extreme blackpilled things he'd seen on his most recent travelling trips at the time

Of course he never unbanned people or apologised to those who he'd got rid of haha

Looks do matter. There were black men on that forum who specifically did articles on what black men, for instance, needed to do to close women who normally avoid them or see them as hoodrat. Same for the asians and indians who had their own separate threads on how to compensate for your race. Race is like height: you are born with it, so you have to deal with it and the perception of it. That's very ironic that he would ban people over that considering we also highlighted a lot what women liked. Women take race seriously, and yet we're suppose to ignore it?

 

[kzar_kzar]

universal principles that attract and repel people.

Give some examples