"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What Game / PUA material is relevant for 2017?

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Hey DJs,

It's been a few months since I've last been on here. I've been making efforts to better myself. I've dropped just shy of 25 pounds, been applying for better jobs and working on my skills and feel the most positive I've felt about myself in a really long time. I am putting myself as the center.

I've realized that I can only read and watch so much, but it will all be for nought if I don't actually practice this **** in the real world.

I have the Mystery Method video archive and The Game by Neil Strauss. I both being referenced in Rational Male and other game blogs (the other few I've picked over so far). But they both seem... dated.
Are they still relevant these days? Are there better game blogs or threads that I would be better served investing my time into? Or am I just over analyzing all of this **** like a beta fool?

Thanks,
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You know what? I just realized I should just test a bunch of em myself and see what does and doesn't work.
 

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The reason why PUA/Game blogs, podcasts, websites, etc. seem "dated" is because most of them are aimed at achieving success with women "for THAT particular moment in time".

Tricks, tips, and tactics focused primarily on getting women always pale in significance compared to embarking on a lifelong STRATEGY to becoming a better MAN overall.

V.U.
 

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Yes and no. Generally I m on VUs squad. Improve yourself because one day you will need it. I date from the age of the puas and other dinosaurs. Some of it was hokey crap some of it never stopped working. Modified mystery method is still a great framework for general approaches. You don't have to be a monk while you're improving yourself. Men like to get it wet. Even if they were total slvts if you've bagged four woman in a year you can't feel completely hopeless about your chances with girls. Just Google on so suave and book. You'll find plenty recommended here. For blogs Chateau heartiste is one of my favorites.

As a quick jumpstart I would say
- find some cool local places and become a decent tipping regular
- study body language basics
- practice gentle teasing and dealing with s*** tests
- don't message much
- if it's an OLD chick double book. To save yourself from flakes.

Just that will put you ahead of 50 % of the guys out there. And most importantly keep getting out there and practicing. If you've had 10 dates in the last month and 11th turns out to be a decent girl who's a hottie you're not going to be nervous
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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