"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Basically in the beginning of the fall semester of my freshman year of college(6 months ago) I had finished class and it was raining very hard outside, so I was waiting at the door for it to stop. This HB7 walked up to me and initiated conversation and we talked for about 10 minutes. She pretty much told me her life story. She said multiple times that she didn't know anybody at the school, without me asking, which I took as an IOI, also the fact that she initiated conversation made me think she was interested. The thing is though, that when I said I had to go let me get your number, she said her phone was dead and to put my number in her phone. We all know what that means. She never contacted me, and I didn't really care. The thing is, I just walked past her and she was staring at me for a long time. I assume in that situation she would've tried to avoid me. Basically I want to know, why would a girl initiate convo, give off several IOIs, and not contact me, and then stare at me later?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She's a social misfit?

Seriously though maybe she just doesn't get how it all works. When you see her just say Hi as if you would to a random guy friend. If you talk for a while and it seems like she's flirting just ask her out right there. Say "let's go for drinks/coffee on Wednesday".
 

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You just met girl AFC. There's way less of em out there than guys but they exist. Usually never got attention from guys growing up so are HB6 or lower. Maybe a late bloomer.
 

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Girls who don't have social awareness just like AFCs. There's many reasons - bad parenting saying sex is wrong, waiting for sex, no friends growing up, ugly and no guys giving her attention, shy, romantically naive or just clueless and not knowing every girl out there older than 18 is opening her legs for guys regularly.
She'll get a shock one day when she sees how the world really works.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Vidrio said:
Basically in the beginning of the fall semester of my freshman year of college(6 months ago) I had finished class and it was raining very hard outside, so I was waiting at the door for it to stop. This HB7 walked up to me and initiated conversation and we talked for about 10 minutes. She pretty much told me her life story. She said multiple times that she didn't know anybody at the school, without me asking, which I took as an IOI, also the fact that she initiated conversation made me think she was interested. The thing is though, that when I said I had to go let me get your number, she said her phone was dead and to put my number in her phone. We all know what that means. She never contacted me, and I didn't really care. The thing is, I just walked past her and she was staring at me for a long time. I assume in that situation she would've tried to avoid me. Basically I want to know, why would a girl initiate convo, give off several IOIs, and not contact me, and then stare at me later?

Seriously dude? You worry about every little detail?

So she told you she didn't know anyone at school and didn't give you her number.

You simply act like it never happened and next time you see her smile and say hi. If she talks make small talk and keep it moving. If not smile regardless and say hi. Don't come off like a scared loner.

You have to treat chicks like normal people. If you see her don't focus on her being a chick. Think of a dude you met or relative whatever so your hello and interactions with her are normal and effortless.

This sh1t isn't rocket science.

Eventually the chick will see you don't give a damn that she never called and will either look for you or start calling or go her own way. No biggie. You simply have to treat things that way and I promise you chicks WILL pick up on it that you aren't a friggin weirdo, loner, scared, let alone effected by them not giving a number or calling.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
Seriously dude? You worry about every little detail?

So she told you she didn't know anyone at school and didn't give you her number.

You simply act like it never happened and next time you see her smile and say hi. If she talks make small talk and keep it moving. If not smile regardless and say hi. Don't come off like a scared loner.

You have to treat chicks like normal people. If you see her don't focus on her being a chick. Think of a dude you met or relative whatever so your hello and interactions with her are normal and effortless.

This sh1t isn't rocket science.

Eventually the chick will see you don't give a damn that she never called and will either look for you or start calling or go her own way. No biggie. You simply have to treat things that way and I promise you chicks WILL pick up on it that you aren't a friggin weirdo, loner, scared, let alone effected by them not giving a number or calling.
Dude, I don't even want her, and all this is How To Get A Girl 101. I'm just asking to improve my knowledge. However, thanks for the input.
 

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Vidrio said:
Dude, I don't even want her, and all this is How To Get A Girl 101. I'm just asking to improve my knowledge. However, thanks for the input.
So you just want to know for your knowledge why a chick who you thought gave you IOI's, wouldn't give you her number, you don't want anyway would stare at you later on?

She could've just been seeing how you reacted to her not giving her number and not calling you by looking at you and seeing if you'd still talk to her or would run off, look defeated etc.

Who knows. No one knows you or her. Why don't you ask her and find out for yourself?

To be honest dudes who don't care about a chick nor want her wouldn't be worried about why a chick stares at them after giving them IOI's and not giving them their number just for their own information. What purpose would it serve if it happened again? An ego boost of some sort from not getting her number or a call from a chick?
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
So you just want to know for your knowledge why a chick who you thought gave you IOI's, wouldn't give you her number, you don't want anyway would stare at you later on?

She could've just been seeing how you reacted to her not giving her number and not calling you by looking at you and seeing if you'd still talk to her or would run off, look defeated etc.

Who knows. No one knows you or her. Why don't you ask her and find out for yourself?

To be honest dudes who don't care about a chick nor want her wouldn't be worried about why a chick stares at them after giving them IOI's and not giving them their number just for their own information. What purpose would it serve if it happened again? An ego boost of some sort from not getting her number or a call from a chick?
First of all, it's impossible for me to talk to her. I saw her once 6 months ago, and then I just so happened to see her today, while I was going to a class I was already late to. I highly doubt I'll see her again. I'm curious as to what happened, and what specifically this means. It has absolutely nothing to do with the girl, it's the situation. I've never heard of this happening, so I was trying to see if I could get an explanation for it. Usually when a girl does it she doesn't give multiple IOIs, so I was perplexed. The purpose it serves is because I want to satisfy my curiosity, and the information could help me out in my dealings with the opposite sex and goal of improving myself. I don't even see how I could possibly get an ego boost from this.
 

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Is this real life ..... SoSuave needs its own soap opera. You made a thread about a girl you saw 6 months ago, apparently have no interest in, but yet you keep replying because you want more "knowledge" . You get that from the field. And jesus, this is the definition of over-analyzing . You thought everything she did was an IOI, why bother even looking for those ? Dumb indicators. The only indicator you need is "What is your number?".
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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