"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What does this mean?
- Thread starter Paintballguy
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
yes you are right.... im trying to.FM 3321 said:
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
dude don't get down on yourself some ppl can't even get a friend who is a girlPaintballguy said:
does she have any cute friends?
how does she behave when you choose to hang out with your bros cruising?
how are you going to feel when she and you go out and she hooks up with some guy? third wheel sucks bro...
it's true you got LJBF'd but don't let that stop you from pursuing other women, don't get into a funk, etc...
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
It's people like you and other AFC's (not calling you AFC) that give people like HIM false hope in getting his 'one-itis' girl thinking that he'll just get rejected and move on, but wat happens in REALITY is that he finds some reason to not let her go and hang onto some glimmer of hope and he ends up wasting much more time than he should also frustrating himself in the process....
Girls like the one he's dealing with especially with the quote...
"You're too cool to talk to me now, and I liked you too"
PLEASE, I've dealt with 100's of these girls on my way out of AFC-hood, they are nothing but attention wanting whoo0res that want loser dudes hanging on their **** so they can brag to their friends about how many losers they have. Wouldn't surprise me if they get together on the weekends and compare each of the losers they have and have a competittion to keep collecting more...
I know AFC's like this guy, they never learn. You can't be easy on them, they need the harsh reality, plain and simple....
-Cod3r
JustDoItAlways
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Listen to what she does.
This email means absolutely nothing.
If anything, it is a good sign. It means she is considering getting it on with you (if she wasn't even thinking about it she would not have brought it up.)
Just ignore BS like this and keep pushing until the girl tells you through HER ACTUAL ACTIONS that she isn't into you (as in she will or won't fvck you.)
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
Everything I've done with her physically, she hasnt pushed me away. If I initiate kino with her, she will do the same on me. I've made out with her the past two times... I don't really know. I'm just gonna get her to get in the hot tub tomorrow and see what happens.JustDoItAlways said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
the_milkman
Don Juan
That doesn't sound like a "all hope is lost situation" to me. JustDoItAlways is right, play it smooth and try and escalate. If she rejects your approaches you have your answer.
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
haha your right the ***** backed out so i deleted the number...Cod3r said:
oh well i got 2 girls lined up that i met through friends.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
DJinTraining06
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Paintballguy said:
That line is BS. It's either 1 of 2 things in all my experiences:
1. they don't have the courage to tell u they aren't interested flat out, so they're hoping u take a hint and she'll slowly fade away.
or
2. There's another guy or guys that she's interested in, or she likes u a little but she thinks she could possibly do better so she wants to keep shopping. She may like to go out on a few dates at once to avoid gettin hurt. Which, im learning, is a fine idea and im currently doin it. I hate spinning multiple plates, but its better off, so u dont wanna jump off a bridge when the one dumps u lol. So the #2 case is better than #1 cuz it means she is interested in u enuff to keep u around as insurance. But it's also bad cuz it means she most likely likes the other guy better, or doesnt think highly enuff of u to be content and stop shopping.
It's almost common sense I think. We know girls don't have much willpower. When they really really like a guy they do not waste their chance. Shed be on u like spandex on a fat ladies a$$ if she really liked u.
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
for sure... from now on i gotta make sure i dont do that again.Cod3r said:Pretty obvious, but at least you didn't paint her toenails... its a win/win
-Cod3r
After you've been kissing/groping/busting a nut all over a chick it will eventually set off one of two responses. (so long as you havent f**ked everything up by bringing it up first)
1. The "I don't want you to think I'm a slut" response, which will go something like: "I'm not the sort of girl who's into casual flings, I want to know where this is headed..." OR
2. The "I think you might be a crazed stalker so I want an escape clause" response, which will go something like: "I'm not really looking for a relationship right now..."
EVERY SINGLE TIME... (side note: if she never says anything then she's NOT into anything serious at all. Just enjoy the sex if/while it lasts)
To which your reply should be the same: shrug, smile and say sincerely "Hey, why don't we just see where this goes huh?" No it's not C/F, nor is it supplicating, it's playing the averages. You'll come across as a genuine guy to both the ho who's after nothing more than some action (or keeping options open) and the good girl who's after something more. Which can only be a good thing.
My advice... keep your mouth shut until then. (Cmon man SS101 here) Even then, KEEP it shut. If she's really into you and wants something more, she will let you know. If she doesn't, then tap it for all its worth but get your other options going before it all falls apart.