"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ok, I've been doing well with the ladies as a result of being on this forum and presenting myself to the world with a little style. So far so good.

I'm wondering about an interaction I had today, and I must admit I can't really figure out what it means.

I've been flirting with this chick at church for a couple of months (I haven't been pursuing a relationship because of a 15 year age difference and she's glued to her aunt). She has been my "technique experiment". I've been doing the teasing thing to good effect, but I'm wondering if I went overboard.

Today at church she came up to the stage to say hello (I'm a guitarist), and I had a nice, short conversation. I told her in all seriousness that I would like to see her attend the home church group that I'm leading, and that she would be a real asset to the group. She seemed quite appreciative of my comment.

After church, a little more light teasing here & there (which she has always responded well to), and then, smiling, and very deliberately touching my arm, she says something like "Gee, Atom Smasher, I must say, I feel really good about myself whenever I'm around you". Then she mentioned a couple of teasings from the past. She definitely had a big smile on her face and was touching me. I said, "Your'e being facetious, right?", (because people actually really do feel good about themselves when they're around me). She said, still with a big smile, "Yes, I'm being facetious, very facetious".

So help this old boy out. I really don't know what to make of this. It seems her body language was out of sync with her verbal message. What do you guys think was really going on?

Again, this is just a practice run so no biggie either way. She always does seem quite happy to see me when I show up. If you don't mind, please let me know what you think happened if you have any insight.

Thanks!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Atom Smasher said:
Ok, I've been doing well with the ladies as a result of being on this forum and presenting myself to the world with a little style. So far so good.

I'm wondering about an interaction I had today, and I must admit I can't really figure out what it means.

I've been flirting with this chick at church for a couple of months (I haven't been pursuing a relationship because of a 15 year age difference and she's glued to her aunt). She has been my "technique experiment". I've been doing the teasing thing to good effect, but I'm wondering if I went overboard.

Today at church she came up to the stage to say hello (I'm a guitarist), and I had a nice, short conversation. I told her in all seriousness that I would like to see her attend the home church group that I'm leading, and that she would be a real asset to the group. She seemed quite appreciative of my comment.

After church, a little more light teasing here & there (which she has always responded well to), and then, smiling, and very deliberately touching my arm, she says something like "Gee, Atom Smasher, I must say, I feel really good about myself whenever I'm around you". Then she mentioned a couple of teasings from the past. She definitely had a big smile on her face and was touching me. I said, "Your'e being facetious, right?", (because people actually really do feel good about themselves when they're around me). She said, still with a big smile, "Yes, I'm being facetious, very facetious".

So help this old boy out. I really don't know what to make of this. It seems her body language was out of sync with her verbal message. What do you guys think was really going on?

Again, this is just a practice run so no biggie either way. She always does seem quite happy to see me when I show up. If you don't mind, please let me know what you think happened if you have any insight.

Thanks!
How was the body language out of sink with the verbal message? I mean it couldn't be any clearer! lol


Smiling, touching your arm, happy to see you, remembering teasings from the past and she even gives you the biggest hint ever saying she always feels good around you. Your techniques are working. ;) If you want her you can have her.


If you don't like the girl ease up on the flirting because the more attached to you she gets the bigger the disappointment when you have to let her down.
 

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Words mean NOTHING with women... her actions are telling you she's attracted/interested and enjoying your company.

She's interested and was flirting with you by adding sarcasm to her words. Strike while the iron's hot..... go get it!!

Don't over-analyze, she's interested.



PIMP
 

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slaog said:
How was the body language out of sink with the verbal message? I mean it couldn't be any clearer! lol

Smiling, touching your arm, happy to see you, remembering teasings from the past and she even gives you the biggest hint ever saying she always feels good around you. Your techniques are working. ;)
sloag,
Thanks for replying.

The reason I say she was out of sync is that she was saying she was being facetious, hence her verbal message was, "I don't feel good about myself around you".

Yet at the same time she is smiling and touching my arm. That is the source of my confusion.

It's amazing how I could have grown up with 3 sisters, no brothers, a largely absent father, and have so little knowledge of "********".

Is your answer the same now that you see that her verbal message was directly opposite her body language?
Thanks!
 

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Pimp-sicle said:
Words mean NOTHING with women... her actions are telling you she's attracted/interested and enjoying your company.

She's interested and was flirting with you by adding sarcasm to her words. Strike while the iron's hot..... go get it!!

Don't over-analyze, she's interested.

PIMP
Ok, thanks pimp-sicle. It has always been so baffling to me how women's actions can be completely incongruent with their words. I was wondering if I had gone overboard and turned her off with too much teasing.

I remember growing up with my three sisters, and while we were playing everything would be fine & dandy until all of a sudden, out of the blue, one of them would feel hurt or offended, start crying and running to mommy. :cry: Atom Smasher is punished, and the cycle continues...

That's probably why I'm kind of sensitive to a sudden change in mood, especially when mixed messages are involved.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes you judge women on their actions. Actions speak louder then words as they say. Rule no 1 in understanding women. Thats not to say they're always lieing but their actions are more accurate to how they feel even when they themselves are consciously not too sure.


Touching your arm is in almost all cases a good sign. That along with the smiling and being happy to see you means she definetly likes you and because you're not too bothered about the outcome it means she probably likes you more.
 

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This one is easy - she has no clue what "facetious" means. She thought it meant something akin to "flirty."
 
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