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What do you STILL don't get about women after being a player for a decent amount of time?

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I'm nowhere near experienced as some of the members here but I think it could be an interesting discussion.

On my part, I do think women will always surprise you, generally i think the answer to "what women want" is not solved yet and probably never will be since there is just too many factors.

A redpiller might say to me that you have to make money and gain status, then I see a beautiful woman marry a bum and reject the guy who promised her to fly her out and get her out of poverty on the regular, in fact women in social media get approached by tons of high status rich guys yet the norm is rejection.

A blackpiller might say to me that looks are all that matters but then average looking men get beautiful women all the time even today.

Then you might say "but what about game?" game does help as a generalization, but I found that a lot of women are put off by game, conservative and traditional countries specially seem to favor a more bluepilled kind of game where you are not supplicant nor "beta simp" but you still give romantic talks, tons of compliments and attention, contrary to what's preached around the manosphere, if game as we know it was 100% correct then "lovebombing" simply wouldn't be a thing.

You can never know what a woman wants at any given moment, everything is a % chance even when the best game and looks on the planet.
 

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That life can only be understood backwards but it must be lived forwards.

That applies to women and the mental condition regarding women. We have to stay in a backwards state of mind to see eye to eye with them, while we simultaneously have to keep going forward and progress in order to provide for them.

If only we could think forward and live forward...
 

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It's up to you as Man to live a purposeful life everyday. Find true Inner peace and self esteem and have Passions and goals that you strive for, it doesn't hurt to have a sense of faith and spiritual calling while you're at it. Women are just a by product of who you truly are. You can call it Karma or Social Momentum but what you do everyday and the sum of your habits can really create a shift for you. Approach two women at the Park or at a coffee shop everyday with a buddy. That's 730 approaches in a year, those are good numbers to land a few dates. Women are here to be enjoyed not overanalyzed.
 

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If I have to pick one...

What's the appeal of Edward Cullen, a fella who's simultaneously more fey than Liberace , yet a more garrish posterchild for every stereotype about men than the villains in I Spit On Your Grave?
 

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nothing tbh, i spent quite a long time trying to figure this out honestly.
went out constantly, tried cold approaching, tried pua and game, tried lifting, tried looksmaxxing.
eventually it clicked and at this point i have basically nothing much left to learn.

feelsgoodman
 

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Not so much something I “don’t get” so much as even to this day their chaotic nature and lack of any type of logical reasoning when it comes to relationships can just make things exceedingly difficult for an LTR. I don’t have a lot of patience for it and catch myself reacting to silly things which obviously is what NOT to do. What you should do is always be aloof and not let it affect you. I struggle with that and catch myself trying to “logic” with them.
 

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their chaotic nature and lack of any type of logical reasoning when it comes to relationships can just make things exceedingly difficult for an LTR.
The most experienced seducers often are challenged by this concept.

You bring up a good point by mentioning LTRs. When a man reaches his mid-30s and beyond, he often has a desire to pair bond with a woman. In order to do that, he needs to have some sort of LTR. The chaotic nature of women does make LTRs more difficult and thus men can often feel like something is missing if they can't sustain an LTR later in life. This is also compounded by most of a man's social connections already being in LTRs/marriages in their 30s/40s.
 
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