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Do you guys think that these Red Pill Authors have pick up skills?. Any of them show evidence of approaching women in bars, nightclubs and street. However, for other side, if you look at PUAs they show infield footage videos of successfully approaching women everywhere and some of those videos are really impressing.

I am going to be honest. Most of what I consume is PUAs stuff, it has been worthy for me. I have read some of the lucrative red pill books and I do not see anything that is worthy for my game. Most of it is negative things and I am not saying is a lie. I am not judging its accurateness but Man!! Think for yourself. What would you do with having those negative knowledge in your mind when approaching women?.
When you are approaching women you should be thinking positive, and delivering a good vibe.

why is it worthy of knowing that “women cheat”, a red pill main topic, holy **** man!! If women cheat, ok, well, do the same man, go out approach women and **** 100 women in one week, done! . But start creating a book and complaining of the unfair of the gender and all day long is not gonna do anything at all worthy for you.

Everytime I read a red pill book wondering if I am going to find my next piece of leveling up my game, all I find is useless things, complaining ****, that if women is this, that if women is that. I am tired of these mother****er who look like very masculine or they think they are very masculine but they are not. Almost all of them have wrote or are into politics, complaining about politics as well, not only women, that if United States is dead, that if New York is socialist now, etc. it is like as if they are laying on the their sofa thinking about why life is **** and women and stuff

Near all of them have long bears like if that is a sign of masculinity, It is not. A bear is not a sign of masculinity. Masculinity is physiologic, almost nothing external is a sign of masculinity.

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Most of these guys are grifters selling courses and boot camps. 100% chance all the footage is edited to show only the good. PUA is just applying evolutionary psychology to the current social climate.

The problem with PUA is you still need to work on yourself, just just on “game” techniques. If you are an overweight unemployed slouch, no amount of game is going to work. If you are fit and confident, you have a better chance to make some fumble recoveries. It’s just one piece of the puzzle. You need to make big picture holistic lifestyle changes. There are several “pillars” to success, if you are missing one, the whole building will topple. Red Pill authors encourage continuous self improvement in all areas of your life, where PUAs focus on grifting their boot camps to guys who think they can learn a few lines while peacocking with a silly hat to get laid.

That being said, I think “The Mystery Method” book is a classic and covers all the basics. Almost anything after that is regurgitating the same information in a different style.
 

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Most of these guys are grifters selling courses and boot camps. 100% chance all the footage is edited to show only the good. PUA is just applying evolutionary psychology to the current social climate.

The problem with PUA is you still need to work on yourself, just just on “game” techniques. If you are an overweight unemployed slouch, no amount of game is going to work. If you are fit and confident, you have a better chance to make some fumble recoveries. It’s just one piece of the puzzle. You need to make big picture holistic lifestyle changes. There are several “pillars” to success, if you are missing one, the whole building will topple. Red Pill authors encourage continuous self improvement in all areas of your life, where PUAs focus on grifting their boot camps to guys who think they can learn a few lines while peacocking with a silly hat to get laid.

That being said, I think “The Mystery Method” book is a classic and covers all the basics. Almost anything after that is regurgitating the same information in a different style.
I don’t agree with you at almost anything .

Even when PUAs might edit some of his videos (which is not 100% true because I have seen many uncut infield footage up to hour and half) there are still good part, as you say. Rarely the infield footage videos of men with no game have good parts in it.

Evolutionary psychology is the weakest part of the pua knowledge because PUAs are more interested in the stuff that works and that allow you to successfully pick up the girls in real life. I am not saying that it is bull**** but it is the part that I have focused less to succeed because at the end, theory is still theory. Evolutionary psychology is not even accurate yet within science itself and many controversies exist.

If you are overweight and unemployed you still can get girls if you have good game. Unemployment is just a created social category that do not reflect your masculinity and value, either money. Overweight do not necessarily means weak body or vulnerable. Throughout history, overweight warriors used to be the most dangerous in battles, so it is not a sign of weakness, neither less masculinity nor less value. I can tell you from my own experience as well, I am not overweight but I was the opposite “Skinny” and I picked up some of my most hot women at times where I was also unemployed. Hence, pure excuses. While many of these red pill guys advise on making holistic big lifestyle changes bull****, I can tell, all of that is bull**** and a waste of time, most guys frustration do not really come from big changes but from small changes like going out more and approach more women since they approach 0 over years. Therefore, you read thousands of red pill books and at the end you realized you have learned nothing useful to actually going out and approach women in better ways. For me, it is pure mental masturbation of them, it might be accurate but useless to get laids.

Yes you learn lines but once you internalize those lines you master the format and you create lines out of the blue, you become a master at flirting. Anything you learn at first has to be scripted first.Everything you learn has to be step by step. It is uncomfortable at first and incongruent but everything take its place through time.

mystery method has his credit for being the primary guys founding the community but since it is very primitive there are many flawless in it. Many PUAs after mystery have came up with great ideas, so your idea about it lack update and is proof of your lack of action

I can probably say about you already. You definitely don’t take action and approach women much. You probably have a girlfriend and that gives you some self confident about your skills in the dating market, based on the fact that you do not recognize any PUA related content after the Mystery Method. Red pill stuff is easier than talking about techniques and useful things within approaching women and that is because you need to approach to come up with thing
 

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I think many of them had decent approach and pickup game at one time or another. I am a firm believer that red pill is about far more than just pickup. I think it's about the psychology and other "game" that comes into play AFTER a guy's has landed a woman's initial interest. This is where I think we here on SS are second to none. We talk about all of it, not just the approach/pickup part. For many God gifted good looking tall rich dudes, initially getting the woman may be the easiest part. But even with the best LMS, if he is a complete beta after getting her, she won't stick around forever. A while, but not indefinitely. On the other hand, guys with average LMS will need to play more "game" after getting her interest in order to maintain it. Most of us here are probably average or slightly above. IMO successful "game" is not to be a complete beta simp before, during and after the catch, as many guys have been groomed to be by their mothers and the rest of the blue pill world. It's also not to let women dupe or con us out of our precious resources that we have all worked so hard for. Because if given the chance, they will.
 

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Most PUA material is just a case of a guy selling the "magic feather" from Dumbo. Anyone who is publishing "do this, this and this and you'll get laid" is peddling generic information that has only as much value as the effort a guy will put into actually going and approaching women.

The information itself is mostly irrelevant, what matters is that the recipient of the information tries and fails so much that he realizes that he doesn't need to be anxious or fearful when approaching women. It's this mindset that women find attractive, NOT the actual words being said or the PUA stuff. You can say the right thing all you want, but if you're still a pvssy then you'll be ignored.

Actual Red Pill content is different. Rollo, Aaron Clarey and Rich Cooper come to mind. Are they right about what they're saying? Yes. But a lot of their success comes from guys who are full of red pill rage and are interested in hearing what they want to hear.
 

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Never been infield with an author (I'm the guy who plugged Fresh and Fit) but I have seen tons of youtubers infield

Saw Freshprincceo approach a girl during the day and got her number in front of my face
Went out with Redpilloverdose that guy legit has no fear approaching
 

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Being red pill simply means you are aware of true female nature. You can either be mysoginistic or enlightened by it. Red pill is a prerequisite to being a successful womanizer, but not all red pill cats are womanizers.
 

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Many of these people have been hurt by women and are swinging way to the other side of the pendulum due to anger and "I'm going to show them" mentality where they want to inflict the same type of pain and hurt on these women as they have felt.

Having a secret woman hating mindset does no good for you as a man and this type of energy does no good for you as a human.
 

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Most PUA material is just a case of a guy selling the "magic feather" from Dumbo. Anyone who is publishing "do this, this and this and you'll get laid" is peddling generic information that has only as much value as the effort a guy will put into actually going and approaching women.

The information itself is mostly irrelevant, what matters is that the recipient of the information tries and fails so much that he realizes that he doesn't need to be anxious or fearful when approaching women. It's this mindset that women find attractive, NOT the actual words being said or the PUA stuff. You can say the right thing all you want, but if you're still a pvssy then you'll be ignored.

Actual Red Pill content is different. Rollo, Aaron Clarey and Rich Cooper come to mind. Are they right about what they're saying? Yes. But a lot of their success comes from guys who are full of red pill rage and are interested in hearing what they want to hear.
What is aaron up to nowadays?
 

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I think many of them had decent approach and pickup game at one time or another. I am a firm believer that red pill is about far more than just pickup. I think it's about the psychology and other "game" that comes into play AFTER a guy's has landed a woman's initial interest. This is where I think we here on SS are second to none. We talk about all of it, not just the approach/pickup part. For many God gifted good looking tall rich dudes, initially getting the woman may be the easiest part. But even with the best LMS, if he is a complete beta after getting her, she won't stick around forever. A while, but not indefinitely. On the other hand, guys with average LMS will need to play more "game" after getting her interest in order to maintain it. Most of us here are probably average or slightly above. IMO successful "game" is not to be a complete beta simp before, during and after the catch, as many guys have been groomed to be by their mothers and the rest of the blue pill world. It's also not to let women dupe or con us out of our precious resources that we have all worked so hard for. Because if given the chance, they will.
At least we agree on something.
 
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