What changes have you seen?

[The Duke]

What changes have you seen since you started in this game?

I've been in this for the majority of 10yrs now and have seen many changes and most are not in our favor.

1. There are far more women in open relationships looking for single men on dating apps. Many claim they are happy and they don't plan on leaving their man. I hear about couples recruiting single men out of bars so the husband can sit and watch his wife get railed by another man.

2. I used to have good success with a well crafted profile and some decent pics on Match/POF. I still had to put the work in, but I got more return on investment. These days POF is full of so much trash I refuse to use it, and Match is too much work.

3. Tinder/Bumble aren't are productive as they use to be.

4. Getting a number used to be a pretty good thing, it means very little these days.

5. Less people are worried about admitting they met on a dating site/app.

6. I haven't noticed a difference approaching women in public.

7. Women have more orbiters than ever before.

8. Men are more feminine than ever before. Women tell me this as well.

9. All of these dating apps have put women in the drivers seat and allowed weak men who fear approaching women in real life a chance to participate.

10. Women's desire to get married isn't as strong as it used to be. They seem to be more independent than they used to be.

11. I see less tactics/pua tricks being discussed on SS than there used to be.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Women used to get Raped by the victors in years past. Now they Never get raped (despite what they "say"/accuse - Satan was called The Accuser). Women want it ALL more than ever since we've given them Suffrage, and other "equality." Once they've hit the wall or are even well beyond the wall, they seem to delve more into lesbian relationships or continue their spotty lesbian affairs from previous years. They have no restraint. This is what you get. In the past, their wants were most certainly held in check and marriage was for life, vows were held up as something serious, sacred, with the threat of ostracism or shame should they deviate from the social norm of keeping marriage VOWS. Vows are Nothing today. Loyalty to words is loyalty that can be changed on a whim and within seconds, certainly years, but also weeks and months. Loyalty to your Kin is more of a solid foundation. What more thick is blood?

Women suck the knob of the victors and the victors today are Satan and Satan's henchmen. He loves the androgyny that pervades our world today. Much dilution of soul can be achieved by that. It then becomes all carnal and those in a purely carnal state (no spirit) are much more subject to being controlled or moved around at the whims of their puppet masters (media, schools, government, corporations).

Women used to suffer much physical overpowering from the opposite sex. Nowadays, it's purely hands-off or the State backing women comes and shoots you. I saw a female yesterday with a black eye. I couldn't help but think (she was a dental assistant btw) that it was probably caused by her lesbian partner. Of course, WHAT or HOW does justice occur when both sexes are female? I'm seeing MANY MANY more females getting married these days in my vicinity as well. VERY strange to me. Of course, they're Ugly and flat chested and asymmetrical bodies, but still, Married?? It used to seem so far off to me in a distant land that you'd Know, work with, or hear that so and so female is getting married to her girlfriend this week. I can't help but think that how sad it is because she knew she couldn't ever get a man due to her looks so oh well, I'll marry a female. She is also Very strong physically which is totally unattractive to me.

How do you divy up between 2 females in a divorce?? Are there any stats on that? from judges who have to sit and hear the 2 angry females' stories about one another? Makes the cases much more difficult to "judge" I'd imagine than the male=bad female=good court default decision.

 

[marmel75]

Guys mirroring their behaviour at work...becoming lazier and lazier and not wanting to do the work required to reap the benefits...

Expecting everything to be handed to them and complaining and crying when its not.

 

[skinnyguy]

You’ll only get matches on tinder if you’re Chad.

Damn right getting a number means nothing. You could lay a woman on Thursday and she will forget who you are by Sunday. Too many options for them.

Fat women and single moms are a protected class.

 

[zekko]

I hear about couples recruiting single men out of bars so the husband can sit and watch his wife get railed by another man.

You know, I'm as perverse as anybody. But I have never figured out what the appeal of that particular bit of kink is.

Women used to get Raped by the victors in years past.

That is something that I've always wondered about. The community puts so much stock in caveman days and the Alpha Male and all. But when women were dominated by men and were basically just a commodity, they had very little choice about who they were going to have sex. The strongest and most powerful men simply took them. So it's not like they were all "Oh, you're alpha, I'm attracted to you", they didn't have much say in the matter. So it's always made me wonder if maybe we shouldn't get so hung up on what is "alpha" and what isn't.

Jordon Peterson points out that among chimpanzees, the hierarchy works like this: It's not that the females only want to mate with the alpha male. They are more than willing to mate with the beta males. It's just that the alpha male chases all the beta males away and intimidates them so that they can't have sex with the females. If we were to try to convert that into a PUA tactic, wouldn't that mean that women would be attracted to men who engage in mate guarding?

 

[RickTheToad]

Lunacy. I do not like the dating scene these days. My ex LTR suggested an open relationship after being with her for 11 years. I kicked her out so fast her head spun (there were other things, but that was the icing the the cake).

A number, kissing, etc used to mean something. Now, I hear in Bridgeport, ladies are giving guys head at the end of a first meet. I think I get why some men are just saying screw it, go monk mode and mgtow.

 

[RickTheToad]

You know, I'm as perverse as anybody. But I have never figured out what the appeal of that particular bit of kink is.


That is something that I've always wondered about. The community puts so much stock in caveman days and the Alpha Male and all. But when women were dominated by men and were basically just a commodity, they had very little choice about who they were going to have sex. The strongest and most powerful men simply took them. So it's not like they were all "Oh, you're alpha, I'm attracted to you", they didn't have much say in the matter. So it's always made me wonder if maybe we shouldn't get so hung up on what is "alpha" and what isn't.

Jordon Peterson points out that among chimpanzees, the hierarchy works like this: It's not that the females only want to mate with the alpha male. They are more than willing to mate with the beta males. It's just that the alpha male chases all the beta males away and intimidates them so that they can't have sex with the females. If we were to try to convert that into a PUA tactic, wouldn't that mean that women would be attracted to men who engage in mate guarding?

I would think the men (if you can call them that) are doing that to their partners to show control and dominance over them. Them men are ***** whipped and have no backbone thus put up with this crap.

society is going to hell in a handbasket.

 

[zekko]

I would think the men (if you can call them that) are doing that to their partners to show control and dominance over them. Them men are ***** whipped and have no backbone thus put up with this crap.

Those two things are contradictory though. Maybe it's as you say, they are showing their dominance over their women by basically pimping them out. I hadn't considered that. It makes more sense if the guy also does his own cheating on the side, I suppose...

The opposite would be the guy who wants to cuckolded because he wants to feel humiliated that his wife is banging another guy. That would be a case of a guy who was whipped.

 

[RickTheToad]

Those two things are contradictory though. Maybe it's as you say, they are showing their dominance over their women by basically pimping them out. I hadn't considered that. It makes more sense if the guy also does his own cheating on the side, I suppose...

The opposite would be the guy who wants to cuckolded because he wants to feel humiliated that his wife is banging another guy. That would be a case of a guy who was whipped.

There usually is little logic in sex. It's usually lust and desire. Many people are different from their public image when compared to the private image. Point being, there are no morals anymore. Many are looking for the next best thing, even though, in most cases, it isn't better. Can't trust a partner. Marriage is very risky costly gamble which is not worth the paper it's printed on.

People are lazy as hell. I've never seen this before, and everyone is always on their damn phone all the time. No one can have a damn conversation anymore..

 

[zekko]

There usually is little logic in sex. It's usually lust and desire.

Yeah, but you can usually find some logic in even some of the strangest things people do sexually. A lot of it comes down to dominance and submission. You did help me see why some guys might do the "watch another guy bang my wife" thing. It still doesn't appeal to me, but whatever.
Now if I could just figure out why people get turned on by dressing up as furry animals...

 

[RickTheToad]

I cannot fathom why anyone would be ready, willing and able to allow another person to screw their partner. I'd dump the bytch as soon as she'd suggest something like that to me. In fact, I did just a few years ago. No loyalty these days.

 

[The Duke]

From what I have gathered reading professional psychology articles and asking others that I know who do this kind of thing the reasons are varied.

For some its a form of voyeurism. Watching your wife have sex with another man can be the next step from watching you and your wife having sex on camera or thru mirrors.

There are also theories about sperm competition. Its been reported that after another man has came inside of one mans wife, the husband will ejaculate harder and produce more sperm

I know three couples very well that participate in this type of activity. I've never asked them exactly why they do this. But In all 3 cases, the women are not 100% happy in the marriage and they are married to clueless beta men. I'm guessing for the men its their way of showing dominance as RicktheToad pointed out, but the women definitely go along with it as a form of looking to others to get their needs met. Its a form of orbiters with benefits while being married. All 3 of the women have come onto me at some point when their husbands were not around. One of them I fuhked(when her husband wasn't around). When her husband figured out his wife was cheating, she asked me about having a 3some with her and her husband. I said no. She had told me before that her husband wanted a 3some and she didn't. But the only way she would do it was with a guy she knew, liked, and was attracted to.

I have yet to meet a woman that would prefer having a 3some with another man before they would a woman, yet I hear far more stories of Male-Female-Male acts.

 

[Murk]

I cannot fathom why anyone would be ready, willing and able to allow another person to screw their partner. I'd dump the bytch as soon as she'd suggest something like that to me. In fact, I did just a few years ago. No loyalty these days.

My ex would fantasise about me banging another women while we had sex, we kind of loosely talking about a 3some and recruiting another girl - it was more of a taboo fantasy though - the reality of it would make her feel sad.

I miss my freaky ex. I keep stalking her social media still it's been nearly 4 months.

 

[RangerMIke]

What I've noticed over the last ten years is chicks are a lot more willing to cheat on their partners than actually leave them.

Also older chicks (late thirties and forties) make things harder then in the past. I have to approach a lot more women and be a lot more patient then I used to. Chicks in their 20's really haven't changed as much... I'm just not as interested in them as I used to be.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I have yet to meet a woman that would prefer having a 3some with another man before they would a woman, yet I hear far more stories of Male-Female-Male acts.

I have noticed this too. Women are all bisexual it seems. It’s more mental for them which is why other chicks can turn them on.

From what I have gathered reading professional psychology articles and asking others that I know who do this kind of thing the reasons are varied.

For some its a form of voyeurism. Watching your wife have sex with another man can be the next step from watching you and your wife having sex on camera or thru mirrors.

There are also theories about sperm competition. Its been reported that after another man has came inside of one mans wife, the husband will ejaculate harder and produce more sperm

I know three couples very well that participate in this type of activity. I've never asked them exactly why they do this. But In all 3 cases, the women are not 100% happy in the marriage and they are married to clueless beta men. I'm guessing for the men its their way of showing dominance as RicktheToad pointed out, but the women definitely go along with it as a form of looking to others to get their needs met. Its a form of orbiters with benefits while being married. All 3 of the women have come onto me at some point when their husbands were not around. One of them I fuhked(when her husband wasn't around). When her husband figured out his wife was cheating, she asked me about having a 3some with her and her husband. I said no. She had told me before that her husband wanted a 3some and she didn't. But the only way she would do it was with a guy she knew, liked, and was attracted to.

I don’t believe any of those ‘studies’ at all. It’s just sensationalizing emasculation and trying to make it seem like it’s more mainstream when it’s not. I can’t believe that any guy would be a cuck like that. There’s nothing that mentally ****s me up more than that. How much more frequently do you notice this than before?

 

[Murk]

I still do well in clubs

Very common fantasy. I’ve mentioned this before and people still claim that jealousy and females competing with each other doesn’t turn them on

I used to mess with one freaky girl that would get off if I dominated and commanded her while threatened her with fvcking her competition while we had sex

It was almost disturbing. But still not as bad as erotic asphyxiation

Yeah girls are freaks bro. You’ve given me an idea for my future sexual encounters.

 

[The Duke]

I don’t believe any of those ‘studies’ at all. It’s just sensationalizing emasculation and trying to make it seem like it’s more mainstream when it’s not. I can’t believe that any guy would be a cuck like that. There’s nothing that mentally ****s me up more than that. How much more frequently do you notice this than before?

I might hear of 1 case a year for this 10yrs ago. In the past 2 years I hear about 4 cases/year. On Tinder, I bet I see at least 1 couple a week/ a single female in a relationship looking for some side dihk. And tranny's are on the rise too(no pun intended). Then you have gay/lesbians out in public wherever you go. Its like its a gawd damn sexual free for all happening.

A swinger couple that I see at a dance club I go to on a regular basis tells me that there are far more people in the swinger scene than you would think.

 

[Red Legg]

I remember my first date with a girl 1988 in high school.No Facebook or Tinder back then,computers were to expensive to own for us.So I mustered up the courage to cold approach a girl I had a crush on in the hallway,she was standing by her locker all alone and I walked up and asked her to a dance the school was having she said yes to my amazement.I then asked her for her phone number (to a dial up phone) When it came time to call her I was scared sh!tless to call her I didn't know what to say....I called her set the date picked her up (under her fathers mean glare) and took her to the dance.We started dating and I even managed to fvck her in the back seat of my dads jeep (that I borrowed for the date) she was hot too when my dad saw her his jaw drooped he even asked my wow how did you manage that ?? back then in 1988 getting her number was a HUGE step because it was the number to her house and family now days it don't mean sh!t..(I would hate to be in high school now with social media it's a completely different world (for the worse)

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

A swinger couple that I see at a dance club I go to on a regular basis tells me that there are far more people in the swinger scene than you would think.

Oh yeah, there’s literally FORUMS for that ****. Gonna be honest, I’m not quite sure how I ended up on some of those but they’re really active with thousands upon thousands of users in there. And most of the threads I read were basically just for the woman’s pleasure with really pacifistic type dudes who had their balls cut off and shoved down their throat a long time ago.

 

[flowtheory]

I remember my first date with a girl 1988 in high school.No Facebook or Tinder back then,computers were to expensive to own for us.So I mustered up the courage to cold approach a girl I had a crush on in the hallway,she was standing by her locker all alone and I walked up and asked her to a dance the school was having she said yes to my amazement.I then asked her for her phone number (to a dial up phone) When it came time to call her I was scared sh!tless to call her I didn't know what to say....I called her set the date picked her up (under her fathers mean glare) and took her to the dance.We started dating and I even managed to fvck her in the back seat of my dads jeep (that I borrowed for the date) she was hot too when my dad saw her his jaw drooped he even asked my wow how did you manage that ?? back then in 1988 getting her number was a HUGE step because it was the number to her house and family now days it don't mean sh!t..(I would hate to be in high school now with social media it's a completely different world (for the worse)

Studied in psychology. We had one talk about this.

OLD has ruined the dating script. And the dating world is a muck because of it. It used to be the old way of... approach, number, call for date, pick her up, go on date, walk her to door, go for kiss, call for next date, etc.
Now it’s pandemonium. The dating script which we were used to is history, but you still have people using it, and losing on it. However many many people desire to still have that. And to mention that older way added to what made a man, he had to step up and actually be manly and lead, then which that added to chivalry. However now that’s lost because were taking shortcuts to faster results. Thanks to technology.

We’re in new times right now because there’s a massive transition happening in the technological world which is making us adjust every part of our lives. The pendulum has swung really far to the right. As we adjust to the new playing field, things won’t be so difficult in the near future because a lot of old comventions will be history.

4 years ago, women complained that men didn’t understand women and their needs, so men went to far to the right and became too feminine. Give it 4 years from now and men will become more masculine again once they realize being more feminine isn’t working, I bet.