What can you tell me about Western European women?

[JackRobin]

All except for British and German. So I mean Scandinavian, French, Italian, Swiss, etc.

1. Are they harder to game than American women?

2. Do they only go for Black or White men?

heading to a travel there in a few months

 

[Naughty Ninja]

All except for British and German. So I mean Scandinavian, French, Italian, Swiss, etc.

1. Are they harder to game than American women?

2. Do they only go for Black or White men?

heading to a travel there in a few months

From your post and thread history I can tell you you'd be better off posing your questions with the rest of the lunatics on "Happier Abroad". Who knows..Maybe you can even get a private consultation with the "sane" Winston Wu....that is if you haven't taken the trek here from that site already and are looking to soon be "posting" at "Banned Camp"..

 

[JackRobin]

so does anyone have a useful post to contribute?

 

[LiveFreeX]

www.rooshv.com <-- he deals with those kinds of women. His forums have a TRAVEL area where people post datasheets on the various places and women abroad. Something SS could really use.

 

[JackRobin]

lol roosh and his forum members are full of ****

 

[Down Low]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml

The above link provides hard evidence of the Y-DNA types found throughout Europe. Haplogroup E1b1b is dominant in northwest Africa, but isn't common in Europe. J1 is a minority in North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, and is also found in Spain, France, Italy, and Greece where E1b1b is found.

Lighter hair and blue eyes are prevalent above 45 degrees north.

The available genetic evidence says that today's Western European women come from R1b patrilineage, and Eastern European women come from R1a patrilineage. The extreme scarcity of other lines, save some protoeuropean, Uralic, etc., suggest that European women have long rejected men who lack certain phenotypes that we generally associate with brown-haired whites.

 

[GotED?]

I am a Californian transplanted in Europe with the government and have lived in Germany for 1 year and now in UK for 2 year so far.

I have had British, German, and now a French girlfriend. Answers to your question(s):


1. Are they harder to game than American women?

I do not think so - I think if you are NON-WHITE, you have a huge advantage overseas here in Europe. Women here find NON-WHITE as exotic breed of men and will be much more open to you than the American women. To tell you the truth, Americans are deep seated in unconscious racial divide. What can you expect from a country that is rooted in slavery and racial strife history since the formation of the nation??

Since I have been in Europe (I am a NON-WHITE), my dating life has been almost reversed. I have continuous game with women and relationships, there is no shortage to caucasian women here in Europe.

The MAIN thing you need to improve upon is your appearance. Europeans are very fashion focused. My French girlfriend has a very negative image of American men and their lack of fashion sense (much of it so). Upgrade your wardrobe, style, cologne, and confidence - and you will have some leverage with European women. If you come across as the typical American man who lacks fashion sense, first image will be a major turn off and rejection.

The last advice is: there is NO common denominator to European women. Take one as their own - they have all been different for me, except for the fact that they are very much more open to experiment with other races.


2. Do they only go for Black or White men?

Nope, see my response above. Good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[rhythmic]

All women are the same underneath. That said, My hit ratio with Polish chicks is higher than with any other nationality. Especially Polish ladies that relocated to the UK and live in cities.

 

[perseverance]

Europeans tend to be less hung up on the racial element, I'm European and love the fact that I live in such a diverse society where if I am bored of white women, I can branch out and get with a lot of women of different races.

 

[JackRobin]

I am a Californian transplanted in Europe with the government and have lived in Germany for 1 year and now in UK for 2 year so far.

I have had British, German, and now a French girlfriend. Answers to your question(s):


1. Are they harder to game than American women?

I do not think so - I think if you are NON-WHITE, you have a huge advantage overseas here in Europe. Women here find NON-WHITE as exotic breed of men and will be much more open to you than the American women. To tell you the truth, Americans are deep seated in unconscious racial divide. What can you expect from a country that is rooted in slavery and racial strife history since the formation of the nation??

Since I have been in Europe (I am a NON-WHITE), my dating life has been almost reversed. I have continuous game with women and relationships, there is no shortage to caucasian women here in Europe.

The MAIN thing you need to improve upon is your appearance. Europeans are very fashion focused. My French girlfriend has a very negative image of American men and their lack of fashion sense (much of it so). Upgrade your wardrobe, style, cologne, and confidence - and you will have some leverage with European women. If you come across as the typical American man who lacks fashion sense, first image will be a major turn off and rejection.

The last advice is: there is NO common denominator to European women. Take one as their own - they have all been different for me, except for the fact that they are very much more open to experiment with other races.


2. Do they only go for Black or White men?

Nope, see my response above. Good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

thanks, what is your race/ethnicity?

See I know European women like Black men (well not all European women but the german and english ones love them) but I was more curious about how they view Brown, Asian, and Latino men (I assuming you are one of the three).

I have read that British women are heavily turned off by Brown men but then again I am not into them myself, I like French, Swedish, Italian, Spaniard, and Portuguese.

 

[Down Low]

I don't see too many threads here about traveling to Nigeria to find easy sex -- much less good brides. How about a desperate Somali? Algerian? Sun City, anyone? No, no, and no.

I don't see any threads about gaming American black women. It's not necessary. They just throw themselves at me -- and every other man. The most recent thread about American black women was about how they're way more feminist and man hating. Oddly enough, this was used as an excuse for black men gaming as many as possible of the slvttiest white women (who must of course be much more feminist and man hating than virgins and low-mileage types). Black women are like Eastern Europeans. They retain the worst about conservative, masculinist society -- being gold diggers -- while demanding all the male-challenging advantages of liberal, feminist society.

In the US, it's rare to see white men hooking up with black women. It happens some, but as Purefilth posted in his Ratings thread, she's a 2 or a 1. They hide it in public.

Why? Because sexual intercourse is sexual reproduction. Selecting a woman for sex is the same as selecting her phenotypes for mating. You're unconsciously attracted to traits you want in your sons. White men are attracted to the physical characteristics of white women. So are black men. So is Rooshy -- even though he has less success with them.

Women understand that blondes with blue eyes get noticed first. "Scandinavian...Swiss" as Jack Robin put it, are at the top of the pecking order. Only in a room full of blondes does the dark-haired girl stand out. That's unlikely due to the relative scarcity of yellow hair compared to brown in most of the world. Even in Sweden, less than half are blondes.

As an aside, a black man looking for bars full of blondes is playing this card. He's acting like a feminized b1tch and waiting for a more masculine woman to "Pick me!!! Pick me!!!" But any healthy man should regularly experience women bending over and staring back. Women make themselves available. Men do the picking. So many posters here have it completely backwards. Women control the gates only in as much as they make themselves unavailable when they're not in heat. We should never confuse low libido with making a selection.

I posted here that 58.6% of married German women are on the pill. 49.0% in the Netherlands, 35.6% in France, 34.1% in Switzerland. That messes up ovulation and lowers libido. It's likely that unmarried women use similar methods of birth control at similar rates in the same countries. Both the married and unmarried varieties are slvtting it up in the bars. They seem to be so extremely picky as to be haughty, when really, they're just not that interested in sex despite taking the pill for the purpose of getting picked up. A man who doesn't match their mental model of Schwarzenegger god status isn't going to get the time of day.

Many women dye their hair to a lighter color so they can look more European. Except for hiding grey, women dye their hair to black to put off all men. Many women straighten their hair, bleach their skin or use lightening cosmetics, and wear Western European styles of clothing to look more European. To be more exact, they're trying to look like the protoeuropean haplogroups I (see above link).

It's common practice on this site to rate women according to a loose HB scale. If natural blondes with blue eyes are more desired, that tells us to discount brown hair and brown eyes. Say, knock off half a point for each. (Green/hazel eyes are the same as blue for this purpose). (Well, you certainly can't add points for blondness. That would make for HB11s and 12s and up -- not to speak of calling some ugly middle-aged Mexican chick a HB7 just for turning herself into a platinum blonde.) Black hair and black eyes: discount more. Knock off points. What about dark skin? Subtract more points as it gets darker. Kinky hair, thick lips, low-bridged nose and wide nostrils, low and wide cheekbones, an underbite, or ghetto booty? Less desirable. Knock off points.

Simpler still: knock off points as the skin gets darker. The other "racial" features correlate well with darker skin.

Does that sound racist? Maybe. But that's exactly what dark-skinned men are doing by lusting after light-skinned women. They're discounting black women. They're discounting themselves. They're hating on their own mothers.

Even LiveFreeX went to a country with fairly light-skinned women to find an un-"feminized" bride. He posits that women there don't want to be perceived as HB10, that they intentionally ugly it up to look like no more than HB7. If skin, hair, and eye color is a guide, then it's the other way around. Chinese can't be higher than HB7 no matter how much they glam up. So they generally avoid trying to look highly fashionable so their less-than-perfect dress / jewelry / cosmetics can be mistaken for the reason they are less-than-perfect in the sexual marketplace.

This isn't about "race." Slvtty chicks can be had anywhere. How does a black American game Eurotrash? Get them drunk, like anywhere else. But don't expect to be respected by them or anyone else. Dumpster diving isn't respectable.

 

[JackRobin]

oh god, not the whole lets make everyone love black women ideal

I swear you remind me of that speakeasy faggot from the roosh v forums who would have huge issues with brown and asian men hooking up with White women. Guy was black and only dated White women too.

Start your own thread, this is a travel thread, not an ebonics thread.

 

[-Gripz-]

oh god, not the whole lets make everyone love black women ideal

I swear you remind me of that speakeasy faggot from the roosh v forums who would have huge issues with brown and asian men hooking up with White women. Guy was black and only dated White women too.

Start your own thread, this is a travel thread, not an ebonics thread.

I don't think that was his point man...

 

[JackRobin]

The second a brown dude wants to know how he can do abroad, no one gives him much of an answer except for one of the users here.

 

[Crazystarf]

Once in a blue moon you see a black girl that averages around on the 8-9 scale around in college; the positive thing about this is that black girls seem to be way easier to chat with/flirt compared to white (and especially Asian) girls. Take note that this is extremely rare; there's only about 1:1000 ratio where a black girl is a 9.

Did anyone else here notice this or is it just me?

 

[JackRobin]

9s in general are in a 1 to 1000 ratio

plus go to the deep south, PLENTY of fine Black women there

now can we get the thread back on topic?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Many women dye their hair to a lighter color so they can look more European. Except for hiding grey, women dye their hair to black to put off all men. Many women straighten their hair, bleach their skin or use lightening cosmetics, and wear Western European styles of clothing to look more European. To be more exact, they're trying to look like the protoeuropean haplogroups I (see above link).

It's common practice on this site to rate women according to a loose HB scale. If natural blondes with blue eyes are more desired, that tells us to discount brown hair and brown eyes. Say, knock off half a point for each. (Green/hazel eyes are the same as blue for this purpose). (Well, you certainly can't add points for blondness. That would make for HB11s and 12s and up -- not to speak of calling some ugly middle-aged Mexican chick a HB7 just for turning herself into a platinum blonde.) Black hair and black eyes: discount more. Knock off points. What about dark skin? Subtract more points as it gets darker. Kinky hair, thick lips, low-bridged nose and wide nostrils, low and wide cheekbones, an underbite, or ghetto booty? Less desirable. Knock off points.

I love dark hair and dislike blonde......don't really get this western obsession with blonde hair and blue eyes.

If you want to look at genetics: blonde hair & blue eyes = greater risk of skin cancer (greater sensitivity to the sun). Who says that's genetically superior and why men go for it? Purely social conditioning, not a genetic trait men seek.

Every fvcking popular model and actress in the early part of the century in Hollywood fit someone ELSE'S idea of beauty and society followed.

 

[JackRobin]

I like blondes, brown eyed ones more than the blue eyed ones but I do love blondes. Overall Latin looking girls are my favorite.

 

[floydb25]

oh god, not the whole lets make everyone love black women ideal

I swear you remind me of that speakeasy faggot from the roosh v forums who would have huge issues with brown and asian men hooking up with White women. Guy was black and only dated White women too.

Start your own thread, this is a travel thread, not an ebonics thread.

Hmmmm... There might be some truth here. When I lived up north, white people HATED the fact that I was attracting white women (and they weren't attracting ****). I wasn't respected at all, by much of anybody, and was always singled out and bullied. But there was always an underlying racial tone behind it. It's almost like, if you're not white - in an area that's predominantly so - you are viewed as inferior, unattractive, and unworthy. And they were harping on about it. Almost every guy said I was ugly, and made several racial comments. They did the same with black people - even when there were none around.

Fortunately, the women didn't give a ****, thought I was very good looking, and came up to me - which just pissed the guys off even more. Ha Ha. Little punk *****es. But they definitely tried to sabotage as best as they could.

Fortunately, its all variety down here, so no one is superior or racist.

But even with Eminem... He was a white guy in a black neighborhood, and dealt with the same ****.

Racism is still very much alive, and people think you should stick with your own race, aren't accepting of outsiders, etc. But those people are usually insecure *******s with nothing going for them, so who gives a ****.

 

[C-quenced]

Women understand that blondes with blue eyes get noticed first. "Scandinavian...Swiss" as Jack Robin put it, are at the top of the pecking order. Only in a room full of blondes does the dark-haired girl stand out. That's unlikely due to the relative scarcity of yellow hair compared to brown in most of the world. Even in Sweden, less than half are blondes.

I too have noticed that blonde females tend to be the first to get noticed. Out of the hundreds of thousands of blondes that I've seen in my entire life I only found about a handful to be of rare, exceptional and unparalleled beauty. Contrary to what society portrays those few valkyries are of course the exception and NOT the rule. Personally I think blondes are vastly overrated, a very size able number of them tend to have masculine jawlines and a sort of rugged look which I don't find attractive at all. Less then 25% of them are DECENT looking (considered hb 8's or 9's when dolled up) and these are the girls so many guys seem to be breaking their necks over.

Once in a blue moon you see a black girl that averages around on the 8-9 scale around in college; the positive thing about this is that black girls seem to be way easier to chat with/flirt compared to white (and especially Asian) girls. Take note that this is extremely rare; there's only about 1:1000 ratio where a black girl is a 9.

Did anyone else here notice this or is it just me?

I do notice how rare the really hot ones are. You find it easier to chat/flirt with them but I personally found it to be the complete reversal. They know they are in demand since EVERYBODY is trying to pick them up therefore they can afford to be as openly ruthless as they want and suffer no penalties because they don't know any better. They live in a different world from us my friend.