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What are your thoughts on hiring a Wing girl

Pilotnic

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I started this journey of "Self-improvement & awareness" very recently: Eating healthier, hitting the gym, getting hobbies, learning, reading, having fun, meeting people, etc. I'm enjoying it, I'm happier and more motivated to keep improving.

I know it's going to take time and hard work to see better results. Right now I have little social life. I want to approach, meet and **** more girls, Wouldn't it be a good idea to "hire" (Since I don't have a hot girl friend)a hot girl to help me out? Guys with girls are seemed more attractive, am I right?

Anyway, what do you think?
 

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Hiring a girl is a bad move.

You can't expand your social life by buying people. You need to find a hobby and meet some people you can hang up with (not only girls)

Keep in mind girls make terrible friends, always aim for guy friends.
 

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I'm fine with pivot chicks.

But know how a hired pivot chick will act? Hired.
 

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Bullsh1t, girls will wing themselves if your the price.

For example.

Last sunday I was out with a buddy and 3 girls. I danced with all 3 of them, grinded one and she bends over on the dancefloor and lets me ride her.

Another girl I know sees this and approaches me to dance with her. I teased her but stayed with the girls I was with out of respect. So girls wing themselves if your the catch. Be ALPHA. Hiring a wingwoman sounds desperate as f8ck.
 

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what if she comes off as your girlfriend? or you two come off as a couple looking for a 3-way?
 

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I've gone out with my exwife and sister before and used them as wing women. It definitely breaks down some barriers and women are more receptive and open to your advances.

This wing woman you want to hire needs to be social, easy to talk with, conversational, charming, attractive, etc. I'd also bring a buddy with me so people don't think you are with this girl.

Another woman makes a better wing than most guys. Go for it.
 

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There are ways to go about this.

0) If you're a CEO (scratch that).
1) If you're a bar manager, hire a bartender.
2) If you're a photographer, hire a model.
3) If you're from out of town, hire an escort.
4) If you find one you like enough, hire a stripper (you pay her to take a night off and take her on a date).
5) If you haven't been laid in over a year, hire a hooker (that is, you are guaranteed sex at the expense of cash, pride and any hope of romance)

But hiring a wing girl? To get another girl?? Honestly considering this for the first time ever, my gut says no. The above examples will indeed get you other women, and you do have a chance of romance with girls 1-4 above, but if you invest in a girl who you KNOW won't have sex with you and other girls find out (or even suspect) you hired a friend? What's next, hiring enemies? It seems to contradict the nature of what you are trying to do.

Just go out alone, sit at the bar, and tip well (cash) always. That means you order one drink and put a $20 down and don't ask for change, once a week.
 

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Once again we have a bunch of keyboard jockeys that have never tried it, jumping to conclusions and offering their expert advice. o_O
 

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I'm hear to tell you that I've done it and it broke down barriers far quicker and easier than using a male as a wing. If you had "bitchy" girls then they weren't qualified for the job. Just like a white knight wouldn't be.

Your typical girl that is in sales(attractive, friendly, conversational, flirtatious, charming) is the personality you need. She can't get insecure or jealous and play catty games when around other females.

Whenever I've used a wing woman, I always had a good male friend with me that was a good wing as well. We'd let our wing woman break down the barriers, talk us up, and before you knew it we were in like Flynn. There were no biatch shields to break down. We already put some points on the board before we even started. Its almost like meeting women thru social circles. Our wing woman provided social proof.

And are you guys so fearful to spend one night of your life trying something unorthodox? It sure sounds that way. You guys live your life in fear? Is pu$$y that valuable to you?

A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory!
 

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Once again we have a bunch of keyboard jockeys that have never tried it, jumping to conclusions and offering their expert advice. o_O
Wait, now you're saying I've never hired a girl?? I thought you said I always paid?

Hiring women comes down to two factors:

1) How much does it cost? You want to pay their AVERAGE night's pay, not their dream-night's pay. For comparison, strippers make about $500 per night, the hottest at the best clubs might make $1000 on a weekend night tops (on AVERAGE - like over the year). To compute? Just ask: how much did you make last year? Then ask: how many days per week do you work? Then assume she exaggerated her income, take off 25% and divide income / (52 x (number of days per week)) you know her average nightly income. If you meet a stripper you think you have a chance with, and want a date tomorrow, pay their average night's pay for them to take a night off (and you pay for the date). Don't expect anything. They are usually amazingly sweet outside the club. Some are actually introverts. Then if they like you they will go out with you for free on the second date (and might even refuse to take any money on the first date as I've observed). Make them seal the plans with a kiss. I'm curious, how much do Wing girls cost btw?

2) Are you guaranteed sex? If you are confident you will take your chances on seducing her once she is out with you (something I exclusively do) OR you can cut to the chase, pay extra, blow your chances up front, and hope (and prove) she is a hooker by saying "you promise you will XYZ, right?". The latter IMO is a lose/lose proposition. You are saying "I know you would never do it free, so I'll pay X", then she either A) shoots you down in flames or B) proves she's not the kind of girl you want anyway. So I recommend hiring models for photography (pay about $200 plus any garments required, and plan the outfit), or paying strippers to take a night off (they are master wing women and turn heads).

With photo shoots, you have a huge advantage because girls are (potentially, if you are classy or she is not) living out a fantasy. Then you get her number, get to spend a couple weeks texting her and planning their outfit, etc (and getting a real camera), give her formal modeling experience (if she pays taxes) and you get a formal portfolio (win/win). For comparison how hot are wing girls btw?.
 
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Don't hire. That goes without saying.

You need a woman who is hot who has a gregarious personality as @Howiestern suggests. A hot/cool girl who genuinely is comfortable around men who also can break the ice & calibrate/conversate well with women.

In the club days I had a few men who I would wing for. One in particular was a blast to go out with. We would dance together, and because we went out together frequently we danced very well together (Latin, swing etc.,) and we would get on the floor as soon as the band would start. This gave us the entire floor to show off for several songs. After we danced together then every woman in the place would want to dance with my friend. So he would have his pick of whoever he wanted. He was also charming & quick witted. Then we'd periodically catch up over the course of an evening and I'd banter and chat up my friend to the other women. Maybe steal him back for a dance ;)...I got him laid constantly. What a ball.

This was how I met my husband. Winging for my friend. My husband would let me duck into his office to escape all the thirsty men while my friend was meeting women...and well eventually that developed into something. Good times.
 

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Feeliking like you need to hire a wing girl to attract women speaks to an inner game issue; it conveys insecurity, feelings of inferiority. Hit the gym, eat well, be social, and approach women who you like with a conversation. Half of the battle--or even more at times--is mental.
 

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Is this Wing girl phenomenon an extension of the "Guys who go out alone are losers" fear that (presumably) beta males have?

I might not want to go camping in the woods for several days alone, but going out to dinner alone is not so bad.
 

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Not useful or necessary in my opinion. Don't rely on other men/women to attract women for you.

Have bever been a believer in "social proof."

I want to approach, meet and **** more girls, Wouldn't it be a good idea to "hire" (Since I don't have a hot girl friend)a hot girl to help me out? Guys with girls are seemed more attractive, am I right?

Anyway, what do you think?
 

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Unless she's willing to fvck you at the end of the night as some kind of insurance policy there are better ways to spend your money.
 
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