"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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What are your sticking points or which ones did you find most difficult?

Kevin Feng

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Just wanted to hear back from you guys in terms of what you thought were your most difficult sticking points in the game or what your current sticking points are.

For me personally, I'd have to say that the two most difficult sticking points for me were getting over my approach anxiety and getting over my sexual anxiety.

AA is definitely one of the biggest. It's a demon that I have to fight every night that I go out. It's always there and its just as strong every night I go out. I've gotten to a point where I can manage it pretty well.

The next is probably sexual anxiety, actually pulling the trigger whilst I'm in set. Going for the kiss and physically escalating, breaking through this barrier was tough, but i will say that once I did break through it, it wasn't that difficult on recurring times.

-Kevin
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I'm not sure if you are talking about sarging or women general.

I don't go sarging so I'll talk about my experiences with women in general. I have two major problems.

Building attraction and knowing when to close/seeing the signs.

I'm just not very good at attracting women at this point in my life. Most of the girls I meet end up thinking of me as just a friend. I've been friendzoned too many times. I'm just not doing the things necessary to turn women on.

In the rare event that I do get a woman interested I don't know when to actually make a move, I might not see the signs or I'm just too scared. Also for a couple of girls I gave them a late hit. You know in football where the quarterback throws the ball and some guy from the defense comes charging at him and tackles the QB long after the ball is gone. That's basically me. It would have been fine if I made the move during the correct opportunity but doing it too late is simply a penalty.
 

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Maxtro said:
I'm not sure if you are talking about sarging or women general.

I don't go sarging so I'll talk about my experiences with women in general. I have two major problems.

Building attraction and knowing when to close/seeing the signs.

I'm just not very good at attracting women at this point in my life. Most of the girls I meet end up thinking of me as just a friend. I've been friendzoned too many times. I'm just not doing the things necessary to turn women on.

In the rare event that I do get a woman interested I don't know when to actually make a move, I might not see the signs or I'm just too scared. Also for a couple of girls I gave them a late hit. You know in football where the quarterback throws the ball and some guy from the defense comes charging at him and tackles the QB long after the ball is gone. That's basically me. It would have been fine if I made the move during the correct opportunity but doing it too late is simply a penalty.
Perhaps the reason you are unable to build attraction is *because* you aren't making any progressive moves...
 

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Its cause he's soft as rabbit cotton..
I've seen pictures of maxtro, he doesn't seem like the type of guy to be chillin at a girls house, see she has on some tights leggings or boy shorts and just grab a handfull of ass.
Thoes are the guys who get layed.. the ass grabbers..
 

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cola said:
Its cause he's soft as rabbit cotton..
I've seen pictures of maxtro, he doesn't seem like the type of guy to be chillin at a girls house, see she has on some tights leggings or boy shorts and just grab a handfull of ass.
Thoes are the guys who get layed.. the ass grabbers..
LOL Rabbit cotton? That's definitely a new one.

But yeah, I'm not an ass grabber. Going with the rabbit theme, I feel like an little rabbit that wants to get a tigress.

I'm not hard on the outside and certainly not in the inside either.

Well summer school starts next week and it's a new semester to blow more chances with girls...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Maxtro said:
LOL Rabbit cotton? That's definitely a new one.

But yeah, I'm not an ass grabber. Going with the rabbit theme, I feel like an little rabbit that wants to get a tigress.

I'm not hard on the outside and certainly not in the inside either.

Well summer school starts next week and it's a new semester to blow more chances with girls...
Cry more. You're a bunny and she's a tiger?

And yeah i used to find approaching really difficult, now i'm just starting to improve kino/escalating, so basically same as you kevin...i'm 18 and a virgin but i'm preeetty confident i'll lose it this year, i'm not sure if more sticking points will arise.
 

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haha...u guys make me laugh...maxtro how the hell did you get to being a master don juan...lolz

i feel it's not about attraction or any single part, it's about moving the game forward calibrating all the way. Calibration is one of the things that experience will teach you and you got to analyse back all the time.

approaching if you do it some times, you will see it's quite easy after all...just go and say hi but that hi should be calibrated enough to get her interested!
 

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schttrj said:
haha...u guys make me laugh...maxtro how the hell did you get to being a master don juan...lolz
Hey I didn't choose my rank. I would have picked something more....appropriate.

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Cry more. You're a bunny and she's a tiger?
I didn't really mean it as a complaint.

It's just that I still find women intimidating. I wasn't the one to come up with comparing me to a rabbit. But I think it works for now.
 

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Once I got over my "hump" I have to say the hardest part for me was (and still is) endgame. I can create attraction, open, joke around, and all that... But I'm still weak when it comes to sealing the deal. Getting better though, slowly and surely...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hardest part for me is going in for the first kiss, but after that its clear sailing.
 

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@maxtro, don't worry bro...see i don't care what game you are following but remember, the very first step of these all: focus on what you want. whenever you see a girl, just imagine her naked, try to get inside her, understand her, how she's feeling, soak her energy up, you got me? All this intimidation will go away!


handle said:
Once I got over my "hump" I have to say the hardest part for me was (and still is) endgame. I can create attraction, open, joke around, and all that... But I'm still weak when it comes to sealing the deal. Getting better though, slowly and surely...
sometimes, in this area of psychology we don't even know if we are doing right... if you are not getting results, then you are not doing the right things. change your game. what you think is attraction might not actually be so.
 

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I can't seem to close to save my life. I am already OK at creating interest and attraction but I just can't ask for a number...I am extremely afraid of rejection :(
 

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beating off all the HBs coming onto me with a stick is my main issue
 

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Kevin Feng said:
The next is probably sexual anxiety, actually pulling the trigger whilst I'm in set. Going for the kiss and physically escalating, breaking through this barrier was tough, but i will say that once I did break through it, it wasn't that difficult on recurring times.

-Kevin
I'm have trouble pulling the trigger sometimes going in for the kiss. Sometimes i just do it with no problem. I've gone in for the kiss once and was rejected, and it wasn't a big deal at all, so i know it's not rejection.

How did you get over this?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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schttrj said:
sometimes, in this area of psychology we don't even know if we are doing right... if you are not getting results, then you are not doing the right things. change your game. what you think is attraction might not actually be so.
Legit advice, man. I've often thought about that myself. The thing is I'm definitely getting results but I feel like I could be getting a bit more... Maybe my style's only working for certain situations or something, I dunno, but it's possible that what needs to be changed is something way before the endgame (depending on the situation.) Definitely something I'll look at.

But most of the time, the tripping point is just that I know what to do and I can visualize it, I just don't follow through. It's like approach anxiety except at the crucial part of the night
 
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