"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What are your best game/gimmick routine?

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What are your best game/gimmick routines?

A few weeks ago I discovered how wonderful the world of games are during a pickup. I did them before but did them without understanding their power. After opening a set, the best way to keep your target(s) interested is through a cool/intriguing/involving game or gimmick.

I tend to go into both speed readings and palm readings after the first two minutes of conversation. Its amazing how fast I can get them to interact, and genuinely feel interested in every word I say. They are definitely Kino enablers for me, allowing me not only to touch my targets but also get a sense of mystery :yes:

Other examples would be the best friend test, or the magic tricks. So what is your favorite and why?

Note: If you think these gimmicks are of no use then please refrain from posting, since you wouldn't be contributing and instead derailing this awesome thread.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I guess none of you think games are good to build attraction. What a shame.
 

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I think games are great!

I would just avoid routines that have been around forever, like the best friends test.


I do a few things myself but I made all of them up so they are completely original and in sync with my style. I don't use them a lot. Just maybe once or twice a set... If that even.

Games are great cause it generates experiences with each other that are usually fun and attractive.

Stories are important to me too. You gotta be able to tell a story! I haven't been using stories and games in the beginning, I wanted to start off fighting without weapons. Get a natural feel for the interactions. :cool:
Now I'm starting to incorporate stories/games/routines... Its actually pretty fun and has been throwing the attraction levels up quick.
 

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any examples of stories or games randall?
 

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Randallpink83 said:
I think games are great!

I would just avoid routines that have been around forever, like the best friends test.

I do a few things myself but I made all of them up so they are completely original and in sync with my style. I don't use them a lot. Just maybe once or twice a set... If that even.

Games are great cause it generates experiences with each other that are usually fun and attractive.

Stories are important to me too. You gotta be able to tell a story! I haven't been using stories and games in the beginning, I wanted to start off fighting without weapons. Get a natural feel for the interactions. :cool:
Now I'm starting to incorporate stories/games/routines... Its actually pretty fun and has been throwing the attraction levels up quick.
Yeah used routines are pretty bad. I do have to say I used that best friend one about 20 times this weekend though. Its so fcking magical its hard not to :( At least I do it in latin clubs though where the game is completely different and in Spanish :up:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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games ARE effective ways to get attraction. Personally I don't do palm readings or magic. Nothing against them - they work, they're just not congruent with my personality.

I used to cold-read a lot though - where you try to psychoanalyze her after meeting her. It's fun, it's easy to BS, and if you're right you get points for being insightful.

I think the trick is to not fall into the trap of treating games as canned material. Then you just come off wierd or more entertaining than attractive. A lot of older pick-up artists used to laugh at dudes in clubs and bars doing magic tricks because it's obvious they were trying to emulate Mystery out of desparation
 

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ready123 said:
games ARE effective ways to get attraction. Personally I don't do palm readings or magic. Nothing against them - they work, they're just not congruent with my personality.

I used to cold-read a lot though - where you try to psychoanalyze her after meeting her. It's fun, it's easy to BS, and if you're right you get points for being insightful.

I think the trick is to not fall into the trap of treating games as canned material. Then you just come off wierd or more entertaining than attractive. A lot of older pick-up artists used to laugh at dudes in clubs and bars doing magic tricks because it's obvious they were trying to emulate Mystery out of desparation
Magic is a much much much much much much older technique. Men used magic to impress women way before Mystery was born. Just buy any magic video and they will go through different scenarios where you use the trick at a bar to impress strangers. Mystery just copied this.
 

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So do you guys know any bar games??? Or a good resource for them.
 

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moto said:
any examples of stories or games randall?

hmmm well since the topic of magic tricks came up I will tell you the only magic trick I do (don't worry its not really magic).

This whole routine is a two-parter, meaning I can take it in different directions depending on her mood. Its based on a deep philosophical theory I have came up with during my short time here on life :cool: ...So since its really something I have thought about a lot it comes off as real genuine... simply cause it is.


::::Makes you Happy::::

-Magic Trick Variation-


Randallpink83: hey want me to show you a magic trick?
HB: Yeah!
Randallpink83: ok, first tell me two things that make you happy.... like this has to be very serious. What makes you TRULY happy. take your time if you must.
HB: umm first lying in sand and second cuddling with someone i care about
Randallpink83: Fvck thats not going to work....
HB: hahaha (they always laugh at that)
Randallpink83: hehe.. just kidding
Randallpink83: actually no magic trick here, but now you at least know a few things that make you happy... oh and it just so happens i have a sandy bed.
HB: hahaha

Its funny because even though I will never do a magic trick and I think its cheesy. The girl always gets excited when you ask if they want to see a magic trick. :rolleyes:

but 9 times out of 10 she is going to give you two nonsense answers. Like the last girl I asked she answered without even thinking "Tom Cruise and candy"
So thats when I will give them that magic trick version, cause they aren't really naming things that make them happy haha. So I will make them laugh and then always say I have one of the two things at my house... "I have a sandy bed (glorious eh?)" or "I have a box of candy under my bed".




-Two Types of People Variation-

this one is if the girl is actually intelligent and not on a emotional high being out in the nightlife with her friends. I've only used it twice.
I can start off asking if they want to see a trick like before and then move into it or just start off like this...

Randallpink83: Hey I have this theory I came up with the other day. I want to see if I'm right or not... Tell me two things that make you happy. Like this is serious, two things that make you TRULY happy... Deep happiness, not like eating strawberries or getting a massage happiness, but deep core happiness. Take your time if you want.


HER: blah blah blah two things (note if people make her happy or if she makes herself happy)

Randallpink83: Ok nice! See my theory is that for most people in the world, "Other" people is what makes them happy. People are necessary to your joy. Most people need to be accepted and loved and respected by other humans to feel happiness

....If she disagrees then tell her your theory... (my theory is basically that, Other people are necessary to joy... Don't make me get deep into the philosophy, I can write a lot about it)

(but here is the whole point of this variation is what follows)
Randallpink83: But there is a small percentage of people who don't need others to be truly happy. They can find the happiness from them selfs, but this is very rare. I want to find more people who rely less on others but just can enjoy and be so comfortable with themselves that they can truly be happy by just being them selfs..

.....She will try and qualify at this point..........She will probably believe she is that rare percentage. :cool:


I have a few other routines like this... But like I said they are all things that are in sync with my style and beliefs and are very interesting to me.
But stories once again are probably more important for me. I got some good ones haha.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I usually just cold read and BS my way around it as best as I can.
 

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good stuff randall. How long did you know these women before you tried that?

Reason im asking is because if you say I have a sandy bed etc. they might think Im creepy.....if they dont know me to well
 

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Lord Shinra said:
I usually just cold read and BS my way around it as best as I can.
You know I have been using a lot of palm reading (got pretty good at it actually) lately but the better I get at cold reading the more I want to integrate it deeper into my game. Palm reading keeps her eyes and yours focused on the palms for example and not enough on each other.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Mayfly said:
If you tries those at a bar, you will either be shot or looked at funny. Or the bartenders will think you are on X.
I thought the same thing at first, but if you look at some of their structure you can come out with your own. I would try toning them down a bit.

In contrast, the Man, Women, Ape would be great to get your friends to play while you laugh at them behind their backs! ;)
 

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DonRaul said:
I thought the same thing at first, but if you look at some of their structure you can come out with your own. I would try toning them down a bit.

In contrast, the Man, Women, Ape would be great to get your friends to play while you laugh at them behind their backs! ;)
Good way to lose friends too.
 

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moto said:
good stuff randall. How long did you know these women before you tried that?

Reason im asking is because if you say I have a sandy bed etc. they might think Im creepy.....if they dont know me to well
I do all these routines on cold approaches. I can sometimes start dropping them within a few minutes.
Usually though I hit a story even quicker.


And the way to not be creepy is to be fun. She has to be laughing and having fun! Girls don't laugh at creepy stuff.
But they always laugh at the "makes you happy magic trick" crap. Especially the "fvck, thats not gonna work...". You have to play the part though. Kinda scratch your chin like you are really contemplating making the trick work but you finally admit, its not gonna work out. Then give them a ****y laugh like they are the brunt of your joke. They eat it up.
 

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I was thinking of a new opening but it actually being a game. I might experiment with this, this coming weekend run.


Tic-Tac-Toe Opener

Grab a napkin and draw in a tic-tac-toe box, then make your first move. Find your target, walk up and hand her the napkin "Your turn!".


.....If she plays with you, then already you two are doing something together and having fun. I don't know, I might try it out.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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