“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What are STRONG IOIs?

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i had a feeling this girl liked me but i wasn't sure. she whispered in my ear today. that's a definite strong ioi right?
 

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No. But it does mean that she is comfortable with you. If she is interested, she WILL let you know. Pay attention to what she does.

Hangs around alot, goes out of her way to hang around with you, initiates conversations... etc. Just basically tries to interact with you.

Chicks always make the first moves. Pay attention, its your job to complete them. They only initiate the first 10%, you have to do the rest 90%.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
No. But it does mean that she is comfortable with you. If she is interested, she WILL let you know. Pay attention to what she does.

Hangs around alot, goes out of her way to hang around with you, initiates conversations... etc. Just basically tries to interact with you.

Chicks always make the first moves. Pay attention, its your job to complete them. They only initiate the first 10%, you have to do the rest 90%.
she's the one that initiated contact about a week ago. i kinda had a feeling she liked me but today she started talking to me more and whispered in my ear.

i think i'm in lol
 

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If she grabs your c0ck, that's a STRONG IOI.

Seriously, a strong IOI is if she keeps talking to you. If she's talking to you, when she's not getting paid to, or she has no hidden agenda besides YOU, then she's interested.

If she laughs at your jokes, specially the lame ones, she's interested.

You will need more than just her leaning in to whisper. If you don't get any more clear IOI's, invite her to go get a bit or coffee, in a very casual way. She agrees, then its IOI, she can't but counters, it's an IOI. She can't and is very vague and non-comittal, Low Interest, and she has done you a favor, in a very low key way, by telling you to not waste your time. Win-Win.
 

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sorry for the double post, but i read that if she asks personal questions like what's your name, how old are you, where are you from, etc. that those are IOIs. we're both sophomores in college so aren't those "normal" questions? doesn't everyone ask that?

but we're in the same class and never talked until last week. she was the one that initiated contact

she also started to sit next to me. she used to sit a couple seats away
 

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iCatch said:
sorry for the double post, but i read that if she asks personal questions like what's your name, how old are you, where are you from, etc. that those are IOIs. we're both sophomores in college so aren't those "normal" questions? doesn't everyone ask that?

but we're in the same class and never talked until last week. she was the one that initiated contact

she also started to sit next to me. she used to sit a couple seats away
Those might be just small talk questions to initiate convo, so don't make too much of what she asked; did you notice anything in the way she asked, her body language, smiling, subtle interest signs? I hope you had non-standard answers to that. Yes, it looks like she's into you, so it is too early for her to be bored by typical/standard answers, so make sure you make some kind of move to reciprocate interest PRONTO!!!!, and test her interest by inviting her to get together outside of class. Also, if you haven't gotten her number and contact info, do it soon. Don't fall into the just friends/classmates frame.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Those might be just small talk questions to initiate convo, so don't make too much of what she asked; did you notice anything in the way she asked, her body language, smiling, subtle interest signs? I hope you had non-standard answers to that. Yes, it looks like she's into you, so it is too early for her to be bored by typical/standard answers, so make sure you make some kind of move to reciprocate interest PRONTO!!!!, and test her interest by inviting her to get together outside of class. Also, if you haven't gotten her number and contact info, do it soon. Don't fall into the just friends/classmates frame.
besides the things i already said, she laughs at things that aren't even meant to be funny

she also managed to sneak in one of our conversations that she doesn't have a boyfriend. we were talking about a festival our school had and someone snuck that in
 

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iCatch said:
besides the things i already said, she laughs at things that aren't even meant to be funny
Isolate her a little bit, preferably off campus, and next time she laughs at something you say, plant a solid kiss on her lips. I am not kidding.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Isolate her a little bit, preferably off campus, and next time she laughs at something you say, plant a solid kiss on her lips. I am not kidding.
added something to my previous post. i'm just asking here to get opinions, but i have a feeling she likes me. you know how sometimes you just get a vibe that a girl likes you? that's exactly what i feel right now. i'm just thinking back to things she does to make sure my hunch is right.

i know i'm late on this, but i'll initiate kino asap
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
I don't know why the first guy posted that girls always make the first move, but that's completely wrong -- from a physical aspect. Women are signalers.. men are the 'movers'. When a male gets good at reading the signals he makes all the right moves. The female signals first, but the male ultimately must make the move.
You call it a signal, I call it the beginning of a move.
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
If my arms around her waist (or my hand is on the small of her back) I'm going to day-2 her and at that point I've already gotten her number. The point is.. as long as she's allowing you to touch her and she's participating in the interaction -- all systems are go.
Dude, this is exactly the point that I'd like to get to one day. :cool:

I've got a question or two for you, though. I understand the importance of kino, but right now I'm at the point where I'm so nervous around girls (even ones that aren't necessarily attractive) that all my effort is going toward trying to act natural and communicate "confident" body language. So whenever I try to do natural kino, like touching the arm or shoulder...it comes across as awkward and maybe even creepy, so I just don't do it. Do you have any ideas for getting over this and kino'ing more naturally? I think girls can sense my fear and it comes across as forced (which it really is).

And when you say "day-2" her, do you mean on the second DATE, or do you mean that you'll be able to bang her the day after that you manage to put her arm around your waist? And what kinds of things would a girl do to NOT let you escalate? Do they verbally call you out on it/back away, etc.?
 

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Dude, this is exactly the point that I'd like to get to one day. :cool:

I've got a question or two for you, though. I understand the importance of kino, but right now I'm at the point where I'm so nervous around girls (even ones that aren't necessarily attractive) that all my effort is going toward trying to act natural and communicate "confident" body language. So whenever I try to do natural kino, like touching the arm or shoulder...it comes across as awkward and maybe even creepy, so I just don't do it. Do you have any ideas for getting over this and kino'ing more naturally? I think girls can sense my fear and it comes across as forced (which it really is).

And when you say "day-2" her, do you mean on the second DATE, or do you mean that you'll be able to bang her the day after that you manage to put her arm around your waist? And what kinds of things would a girl do to NOT let you escalate? Do they verbally call you out on it/back away, etc.?
I'll give you my two pesos worth on this one.

Don't do anything you don't feel confident doing. If you are really creeped out about grabbing her waist, touching her shoulder, etc. Don't do it. You are more likely to do more damage than good.

An idea on getting "KINO" going more naturally is to comment on her hand, ask question,etc. regarding her hand(s). Put your hand out right after, facing up, as in inviting her to put her hand on yours. That's a pretty good and accurate test to gage how confortable she is with simple touch.

From touching, commenting on her hand, you can escalate into pressing on pressure points, small casual hand massage, talk about tension, nails, rings, softness, etc. Just build confort. Unless she is not into you, she will usually respond well. Even if she's not sure how much she likes you, she will be open to hand contact. If she's really into she'll be saying stuff like "Ah, that feels good" or other encouraging things. Very easy to initiate hand to hand contact and escalate if things are going well. If she doesn't want you to escalate, there is no strong rejection signals and nobody really feels ackward, as she will usually gently pull away.

By "second day" it means the very first meeting you have after initially meeting/introduction to each other. The first meeting/approach would be "first day", the "second day" is the first official get together or first "date".
 

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I'd say her grabbing your crotch is a STRONG IOI
 

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lol

Don't worry about IOI or IODI.
Make a move and see for yourself.
The strongest possible IOI or IODI is how she reacts to your move.

Only, noobs worry about them before hand when it's pointless because they mean nothing unless you make a move.

"I'm going to assess the situation before I put myself out there like that!" - nerd who never puts himself anywhere other than in his head.

"I'm going to kiss her and lol if she doesn't want to." - DJ who gets a lot of amusement by failing and having such lulzy stories to tell.
 

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Potrebbero essere solo domande di breve durata per avviare una conversazione, quindi non dare troppo peso a ciò che ha chiesto; hai notato qualcosa nel modo in cui ha chiesto, nel suo linguaggio del corpo, nel sorriso, nei sottili segnali di interesse? Spero che tu abbia avuto risposte non standard a questo. Sì, sembra che le piaci, quindi è troppo presto perché si annoi con le risposte tipiche/standard, quindi assicurati di fare qualche mossa per ricambiare l'interesse PRONTO!!!!, e metti alla prova il suo interesse invitandola per ritrovarci fuori dalla lezione. Inoltre, se non hai ottenuto il suo numero e le informazioni di contatto, fallo presto. Non cadere nella cornice dei soli amici/compagni di classe.
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The worse thing, is when you receive IOI from a married woman..
 

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added something to my previous post. i'm just asking here to get opinions, but i have a feeling she likes me. you know how sometimes you just get a vibe that a girl likes you? that's exactly what i feel right now. i'm just thinking back to things she does to make sure my hunch is right.

i know i'm late on this, but i'll initiate kino asap
Be careful of feelings, Actions speak louder than Words especially with Women! The Vibe is good ....Maybe. The best action is to always act that you don't really care that much....
 

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These are some I’ve gone by.

Copping feels of your arms, shoulders, and upper back while talking to you.

Checks out your body while talking to you.

Strikes up conversation in places she doesn’t have to (eg, while at the supermarket, at a venue).

Looks at you a bit too long or frequently.

Doesn’t move away if you move closer while talking.
 

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i had a feeling this girl liked me but i wasn't sure. she whispered in my ear today. that's a definite strong ioi right?
I was at a client facility today. We had a critical patient. After the crisis was resolved. One of the staff. Whom I had not met before, but we interacted in this situation, came up to me, grabbed my shoulders and whispered in my ear. So close, I thought she was going to stick her tongue in my ear. Later, she introduced herself and we talked a bit.
Hard to say if that was an IOI, or if she was caught up in the moment.
 
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