“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

What are some validating and fulfilling experiences you can have with women when you're older?

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
And please, the whole "but validation is bad breh!" crowd, I am not really looking for your opinion.

I mean it must be depressing as hell to get girls because of just your salary or cash. TBH, I do not tell women what I do for a living even though it pays well. Issue is, it just all feels somewhat bland at my age. I feel like the spice and fulfillment from the game are not really there.

Like I am in my late 20s and yes, it's like, you have sex because people are so comfortable with that but just because that is the case it kinda lacks fulfillment in my eyes. It's like you're getting something right after it stopped being so cool and everyone wanted it. The whole "grown ups" nonsense kills me, it is why I tend to stay away from married couples as friends (even though some have aggressively tried to be my friend). I missed out and tbh, I want to make up for the fulfillment I missed out on in high school and college.

I have vowed to never, under any circumstances, get married. I never pay a dime for a date, ever. Even then, I want to know what fulfilling and validating experiences with women look like once you're older than 25 because it means a lot to me.

Back in high school, it was taking the prettiest girl out to prom or belonging to the in crowd full of popular kids, most of which consisted of hot girls.

In college it was making out with a hottie at a house party, ****ing a girl on spring break, getting invited to a sorority formal, and going to themed parties with a hot girl.

Any idea of validating and fulfilling experiences with women after college?

Dating a supermodel?

Taking pics of a woman nude on your bed after you have just ****ed her?

Any ideas?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
The only fulfilling thing I see here is the bill of a psychologist.

I mean I understand your points talking about dating women in your 50s or later, but you really need to ask us what could be fulfilling after 25?

Im kinda messed up in the head altought not as much as you so just want to answer your question.

What about going out with a girl who is pleasable to look at and pleasable to deal with, have her cook dinner for you, have sex then just relax and watch a movie?

You talk about validation? you dont need top models, if you get a girl which is goodlooking enough and mentally stable you already hit the jackpot nowadays.
 

El Payaso

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2014
Messages
3,621
Reaction score
2,624
You're so obsessed with high school and college. You're almost 30 years old. Time to grow up and move on.
 

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
Get a girl? I am not even about that **** lol, ONS and SNLs for life dude.

I am not obsessed with high school and college as much as I am obsessed with having fulfilling and validating experiences in the game, it isn't just about the sex, it's about the sex and something more.
 

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
I have that currently.

Where is the challenge in that?

You are advising laziness and fear. There is no fun in that.
I meant that even a SIMPLE thing like that nowadays could be a source of validation given the condition of the average man dealing with the average woman, even a not so special fact nowadays is enough to set his condition apart.

He was talking about validation, at least thats what I got from his message.

I dont see how laziness and fear exist in that concept.
 

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
Because I thrive on it.

There is little validation to be had once you truly understand women. You get tired on one quickly.

I get off on the uncertainty, especially of undermining 'social constructs'.

I have my main plate cooking for me on this Saturday, and I have talked her into ordering and wearing a French maid's uniform. I will fvck the sh*t out of her.

Yet, I get more value out of my 3 street approaches today where I got rejected (2 boyfriend rejections - 1 legit and one nearly a number close, and 1 straight b1tchy blow-out).

Laziness and fear always are the corruptions of man. It's how I could just relax and accept a woman's gay LTR frame. It's the devil. Don't act like this isn't a major factor in plate spinning: that is absurd.
I understand your point but I disagree with the message.

Lazyness? maybe you could have a point but personally I have goals to reach and having available quality sex (either through fvck buddies or a gf) will allow me to concentrate my energy and time on bigger goals.

For example it gets hard to get a six pack or being productive at morning if my libido requires me to go hunt at night and mess up my sleep.

Not sure if I explained myself.

Personally I dont get validation through cold approaches, its just an annoying phase necessary to get to the goal.

To find cold approaching plesable in any way to me is not any different that feeling pleasure to drive to reach your final destination, in my case I want the trip to be as fast and smooth as possible.

Could be lazyness? maybe but I would say a more goal oriented mindset.
 

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
Well, then you aren't taking the appropriate value from cold approaches. You would benefit from coming out with me, Spaniard :p

Listen mate. If you don't appreciate the approach, you don't appreciate this game. It really is as simple as that. The approach is the basis of male game.

You simply are not yet at a point where you see the game for what it is.

Yes, it is probably laziness. And I fend this off myself.

But let's call a spade a fvcking spade. The approach is the basis of male game. Don't want to approach? You are lazy or afraid - sort it out. Don't rationalize like a pvssy.

This particular thread is about validation, and I will win. I tell you now, that sex is overrated. I always use a condom, and as soon as I get my d*ck in a woman I have already won.

Sex certainly isn't the main for me. This is a hobby, and I always do well at my hobbies.
Disagree with everything especially the last part, I was like that in my teens where all that mattered was increasing the score and the total number to consider myself "a man".

I dropped that vision after I reached the double digit, you like to approach but once you put your d1ck in a woman you are satisfied and thats all? did I got it right?

Agree on one thing the more I think about it the more I believe you have a point, Im lazy but not lazy in the negative meaning aka a guy that doesnt like to work, Im lazy in the fact that once established the goal I look for the easiest less demanding way to reach it...thats basically what programmers get paid for (Im not one).

This thread is about validation and you will win, fine Im too old and too "lazy" for such things, Im sure some users will agree with your vision while others will agree with mine.

I can related with something in your mindset cause I've been there, but no longer there.

Its not that I find approaching itself unpleasable its just the conditions where it usually happens, I enjoy to approach a woman at a work meeting where I know I'll find someone I can related and enjoy but when it comes of night life I do it only when Im horny and need to bang, few pleasure in that, just a chore to get what I want...you know shouting because of the music, queue to go inside and so on.

Call me lazy if you want, I wont get mad :p
 

Mike32ct

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 22, 2007
Messages
8,327
Reaction score
5,040
Location
Eastern Time Zone where it's always really late
And please, the whole "but validation is bad breh!" crowd, I am not really looking for your opinion.

I mean it must be depressing as hell to get girls because of just your salary or cash. TBH, I do not tell women what I do for a living even though it pays well. Issue is, it just all feels somewhat bland at my age. I feel like the spice and fulfillment from the game are not really there.

Like I am in my late 20s and yes, it's like, you have sex because people are so comfortable with that but just because that is the case it kinda lacks fulfillment in my eyes. It's like you're getting something right after it stopped being so cool and everyone wanted it. The whole "grown ups" nonsense kills me, it is why I tend to stay away from married couples as friends (even though some have aggressively tried to be my friend). I missed out and tbh, I want to make up for the fulfillment I missed out on in high school and college.

I have vowed to never, under any circumstances, get married. I never pay a dime for a date, ever. Even then, I want to know what fulfilling and validating experiences with women look like once you're older than 25 because it means a lot to me.

Back in high school, it was taking the prettiest girl out to prom or belonging to the in crowd full of popular kids, most of which consisted of hot girls.

In college it was making out with a hottie at a house party, ****ing a girl on spring break, getting invited to a sorority formal, and going to themed parties with a hot girl.

Any idea of validating and fulfilling experiences with women after college?

Dating a supermodel?

Taking pics of a woman nude on your bed after you have just ****ed her?

Any ideas?
You can't replace the high school or college experience later in life. It's really not possible. It's gone. Life is different later on.

I'm not going to lecture you or judge you on this. All I'm going to say is that you need to try to find something realistic that you enjoy that you can do NOW. We can't tell you what that is. It's something that you have to find yourself.

For me, I find some fulfillment with dance classes. It's not helping me "score" because an old guy that can dance well is still an "old guy" that can dance well lol. But I have fun with it and genuinely like it for what it is. I would have been unstoppable at a college dance or club with the crazy turns I know now, but you can't look back.
 
Last edited:

Trump

Banned
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
3,000
Reaction score
1,669
I mean it must be depressing as hell to get girls because of just your salary or cash. TBH, I do not tell women what I do for a living even though it pays well. Issue is, it just all feels somewhat bland at my age. I feel like the spice and fulfillment from the game are not really there.
Bro why else would a woman talk/date/have sex with you? You meet a beautiful 26 year old woman, she asks what do you do and you are a top Hollywood director. You are going to say "It's not important, I like to get spice from our interaction and you get to know me as a person."
I never understand guys who don't tell woman what they do. They must be ashamed of their job.

Like I am in my late 20s and yes, it's like, you have sex because people are so comfortable with that but just because that is the case it kinda lacks fulfillment in my eyes. It's like you're getting something right after it stopped being so cool and everyone wanted it. The whole "grown ups" nonsense kills me, it is why I tend to stay away from married couples as friends (even though some have aggressively tried to be my friend). I missed out and tbh, I want to make up for the fulfillment I missed out on in high school and college.
You can't. High school and college are gone. Back then you could sleep with young women just by telling them you "love" them. :D

I have vowed to never, under any circumstances, get married.
Come on bro. What if the girl was a rich HB 9 movie star and said I'll have your baby and not cause you any issues?

Any idea of validating and fulfilling experiences with women after college?

Dating a supermodel?

Taking pics of a woman nude on your bed after you have just ****ed her?

Any ideas?
Get them pregnant. At your age you should be able to pull any good looking woman you want within 5 minutes.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
Most of you are so out of touch with reality.......

Some of the advice on here, my god.....
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
I don't need women for either fulfillment or validation, so I'm not sure how to answer that. If you need anyone for fulfillment and validation you are in for a long lonely life.
 

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
I don't need women for either fulfillment or validation, so I'm not sure how to answer that. If you need anyone for fulfillment and validation you are in for a long lonely life.
Life is supposed to be long and lonely.

As for validation, the only thing I need women for is sex alongside fun experiences I can show off and brag about, occasionally as arm candy too.

**** marriage and LTRs.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
Life is supposed to be long and lonely.

As for validation, the only thing I need women for is sex alongside fun experiences I can show off and brag about, occasionally as arm candy too.

**** marriage and LTRs.
Wrong. Being alone and being lonely are two seperate things. Being lonely comes from needing outside sources to validate your existence. Well which is it? You just said in the thread title you wanted to know validating and fulfilling experiences with women. You don't need either.
 

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
Wrong. Being alone and being lonely are two seperate things. Being lonely comes from needing outside sources to validate your existence. Well which is it? You just said in the thread title you wanted to know validating and fulfilling experiences with women. You don't need either.
Quit mixing up my words, if you cannot answer the damn question then why are you even here? To convince me to stop my pursuit? I don't ****ing think so.
 

Desdinova

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 15, 2004
Messages
11,668
Reaction score
4,842
Any idea of validating and fulfilling experiences with women after college?
Your goals after college should be to get some sort of income, get yourself a place to live (or a better one), and get your own 5hit established. Women are nothing but a pastime, just like attending a concert or watching fireworks.

Build your life on the foundation of your own happiness. If you build your life on the foundation of a woman, your life will collapse when she fvcks off.
 

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
Let's get one thing straight from the off: I don't care what you think of me, or what anyone thinks. I do what I think is right.



That is the best part of the game, yes.

But I also keep steady plates that cook and clean for me. High-interest women.

This game isn't as simple as we can make in a few posts. Yet your position is wrong.



You are lazy when it come to this game.

I understand it. I have been there myself.

I even have a plate that is trying to take me there right now. Women are manipulative.

Don't fvcking allow it!



You are only one year older than me!

Come on mate. This should be your prime.



Then you need to 'get back there', because your current mindset is fvcking lame.



You are fvcking lazy. You are espousing social-circle game here. I don't do that sh*t, and I denounce it on here with a passion.

I don't do night-game anymore. I only deal with a woman in a pub, when she shows me clear signs. I really don't go out looking for it anymore.

I do day-game. I am probably one of the biggest advocates of it on this forum. I suppose OLD is just as good, if you are appropriately skilled at it (I wasn't when I tried :D).
I tought I was fvcked up in the head..but apparently some are more, I believe you can have a au pair conversation with op and understand each other given what you explained in your posts.

You suggest me to go back to a mindset I dropped which is the one you have now, I suggest you to drop this forum for a bit, not sure which one of us is right.

The only sure thing is that we're both fvcked up in the head but at least Im trying to get sane. ;D
 

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
Different strokes for different folks, and all that.

Find it funny how having validating experiences is often denied or denigrated by people.

Of course, If i'm in this game, I am going to take validation from fvcking girls and succeeding in a myriad of different ways. No different than doing Jiu-Jitsu and wanting to win the tournament trophy, or achieve the next belt.

People who say "I don't care" are speaking nonsense, or they have settled down.
Man, you GET IT, thank you. You're real about life.
 

Good Gao

Banned
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
729
Reaction score
245
Your goals after college should be to get some sort of income, get yourself a place to live (or a better one), and get your own 5hit established. Women are nothing but a pastime, just like attending a concert or watching fireworks.

Build your life on the foundation of your own happiness. If you build your life on the foundation of a woman, your life will collapse when she fvcks off.
It has nothing to do with happiness, it has to do with fulfillment in the game if you read my thread.

Sure, you can start a million dollar business or whatever but really, if you read my post, it was about that feeling of fulfillment from not just women but the game itself. Getting the hot girls while others aren't and having fun experiences socially and with hot girls that others won't get to have.

I do wish you offer up advice on that regard because even if a man has built it all and has his money and life worked out, some of us want that fulfillment from the game as a part of our life, not the entirety of it but as a part of it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Top