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What are some goals an incel should have in life?

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How early is retiring very early to you?

The only issue is that reaching FIRE(Financial Independence Retire Early) is that it would either require an exorbitant amount of time at work to achieve, and/or living on an extremely lean budget. They would have to make those sacrifices while young, which isn't conducive to GeoMaxxxing. I don't think it's impossible, just points to consider.
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Your goal should be to think for yourself and live life in your terms. What do you want to become achieve? What interest do you have? What makes you happy and keeps you healthy?

Now go get what you want for yourself because once you are on this path you will begin to see women noticing you, starring at you, having excuses to be around you, throwing it out that that’s it’s okay if you talk to them.

Then you decide if you are interested and have time for them
 

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If touch-starved (as I am), then at least paying for company from women, but limit to naked dancing, hugging, cuddling in case the experience is too overwhelming (ie you don't have to sex an escort/prostitute if you don't feel comfortable). If not comfortable or out of budget, then try getting a pedicure, it's non-sexual, and they are paid to touch your feet and polish your nails at least a much smaller type of fee.

If you see two people of the opposite sex hugging each other or close to teach other then it shouldn't bother you as much if you have some touch-experience yourself. The main problem I think is the lack of any emotional and even non-sexual/sensual touch with the opposite sex. If you have that sorted out, honestly, I don't think you would care about being single.

For example, I had this wierd happy feeling last Sunday, for example, after an email exchange with an OF-escort, for like a few minutes, I was actually happy I was single and felt sorry for people in relationships as you don't appreciate the freedom you have when you are free and can do your own thing. This is virtual, and shows that even a paid-connection (subscription) can even work wonders for the emotions and feel like you can conquer the world, even if you are just hugging your pillows. If a virtual connection can have such an impact, then I think the issue is about feeling any sort of connection, at all, to the opposite sex, rather than just getting laid.
 

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As was said, it’s not a good analogy. You go:

Profession -> goals -> married -> not about attracting women.
Profession -> goals -> married -> not about attracting women.
Incels -> ? -> not married -> can’t attract women.

And ask us to fill in the “?”

Doesn’t make sense.
 

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If touch-starved (as I am), then at least paying for company from women, but limit to naked dancing, hugging, cuddling in case the experience is too overwhelming (ie you don't have to sex an escort/prostitute if you don't feel comfortable). If not comfortable or out of budget, then try getting a pedicure, it's non-sexual, and they are paid to touch your feet and polish your nails at least a much smaller type of fee.

If you see two people of the opposite sex hugging each other or close to teach other then it shouldn't bother you as much if you have some touch-experience yourself. The main problem I think is the lack of any emotional and even non-sexual/sensual touch with the opposite sex. If you have that sorted out, honestly, I don't think you would care about being single.

For example, I had this wierd happy feeling last Sunday, for example, after an email exchange with an OF-escort, for like a few minutes, I was actually happy I was single and felt sorry for people in relationships as you don't appreciate the freedom you have when you are free and can do your own thing. This is virtual, and shows that even a paid-connection (subscription) can even work wonders for the emotions and feel like you can conquer the world, even if you are just hugging your pillows. If a virtual connection can have such an impact, then I think the issue is about feeling any sort of connection, at all, to the opposite sex, rather than just getting laid.
Basically you should lose your new virginity again.

Its just a matter of putting your weener inside her.

the incel 10 years ago is your average man today.

the fact of the matter is women are not interested in relationships in today's worlds, its simply a means to an ends.
Most women want a relationship. In fact. They’ll aggressively pursue it.
Imo both opinions are true.
 

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So what goals should an incel have?
-Become cognizant of that fact they've been out of junior high for over 15 years now

-Leave the video games, comic books, and RPGs back in childhood, where they belong

-Spend at least an hour outdoors, in the sunlight, each and every day

-Challenge and interrogate the belief that their being without female company is "involuntary", as opposed to a side-effect of behaviors they're engaged in
 
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-Spend at least an hour outdoors, in the sunlight, each and every day
Yes, I actively approach girls at the beach. Almost every Saturday and Sunday at the beach, spring to fall. And it's super rare to see a reoccuring girl.
 

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So basically, the ideas I was hoping for were skills and learnsets to acquire that are useful to attracting women.

For example, not interested in learning how to play the guitar. That seems to be useful if you're into geeky/hipster girls.

Anyways.

The key to attracting women is to imprint women.

So now it's showing women that all the guys she's seeing and dating and associating with, all suck. That they're not as attractive as something you put into her mind. Which will of course, increase her standards, make her more picky/choosy, and therefore lead her to be single longer.

This is what I do with Facebook anyways. For example, a girl could see I make more money than the men she knows, doesn't complain about the things the men she knows does, see that I handle situations differently then the men she knows, my knowledge of fashion and other things are more developed than the men she knows, BUT, I am not on her social media, her phone book, her immediate circle, so the only way that can happen is if she tries to do something about it.
 

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So basically, the ideas I was hoping for were skills and learnsets to acquire that are useful to attracting women.

For example, not interested in learning how to play the guitar. That seems to be useful if you're into geeky/hipster girls.

Anyways.

The key to attracting women is to imprint women.

So now it's showing women that all the guys she's seeing and dating and associating with, all suck. That they're not as attractive as something you put into her mind. Which will of course, increase her standards, make her more picky/choosy, and therefore lead her to be single longer.

This is what I do with Facebook anyways. For example, a girl could see I make more money than the men she knows, doesn't complain about the things the men she knows does, see that I handle situations differently then the men she knows, my knowledge of fashion and other things are more developed than the men she knows, BUT, I am not on her social media, her phone book, her immediate circle, so the only way that can happen is if she tries to do something about it.
Have you given any thought to taking up ball room dancing, art history classes, pottery, etc? Talking here about engaging in activities that you yourself enjoy, make us all classier, more cultivated men, AND(as a side effect)tend to be venues frequented by high quality women?
 

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Man, there are some stupid posts on here.

Today you'll find that it's the norm for a huge number of men to have serious issues in the dating market, which means they also are experiencing long sexual droughts. Things are very different now than they would have been prior to the explosion of dating apps and social media taking over the scene, which really started around 2014-2015. These men are not morbidly obese individuals that never leave the house or have terrible social skills, they are otherwise "normal" tier men.

Sure, there are young men in happy relationships but they are NOT the norm. I've also noticed that there is a clear trend that many young women are totally content with being a side piece of a man who is seeing other women. However, these women will be loyal to that one specific guy, so they've effectively taken themselves off of the market. Something like this would have been heavily frowned upon not that long ago and the overwhelming majority of women would have quickly kicked a guy to the curb for even remotely considering this lol.

With all of this out of the way, the first most important thing is to understand the current trends in the dating market and accepting them for what they are. I think a lot of guys that are actually frustrated are otherwise decent young men that for whatever reason aren't fully aware of the dating environment they are in. They are basically operating out of a "blue pill" programming that worked for their fathers, uncles, grandparents, etc.

After this, I think men should really just be all about their purpose in life and pursuing things that they find meaningful. There are too many people, including men, that go through life as drones without pursuing things that make them happy. Use more of your free time to pursue hobbies that you enjoy. Try to learn as much as possible with things that interest you. Take care of your health and fitness. One really big one that I've neglected for too long is to go on vacations and see new areas, there are so many other things out there than your current bubble of your metro you are living in.
 

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"These men are not morbidly obese individuals that never leave the house or have terrible social skills, they are otherwise "normal" tier men"

They're "Normal men", in that they're doing exactly what not just what most males, but most PEOPLE in The Post-Industrial world do throughout their waking hours these days... Binge watching every season of Cobra Kai for the billionth time, f-cking around on Instagram, then bemoaning the fact that they haven't gotten their needs and desires met
 

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Have you given any thought to taking up ball room dancing, art history classes, pottery, etc? Talking here about engaging in activities that you yourself enjoy, make us all classier, more cultivated men, AND(as a side effect)tend to be venues frequented by high quality women?
Yes, I took an art history class in college and high school. Pottery classes tend to be for old ladies...

Again, those are places for meeting women? I already go day game to women at beaches, so.
 

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Binge watching every season of Cobra Kai for the billionth time, f-cking around on Instagram, then bemoaning the fact that they haven't gotten their needs and desires met
For me, I walk around shirtless outside, then come home at night and complain no women even noticed me.
 

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"Yes, I took an art history class in college and high school"

That was, I presume, eons ago. Participate in activities like these today
 

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For me, I walk around shirtless outside, then come home at night and complain no women even noticed me.
If you're doing so in San Franciso's Castro District, consider yourself fortunate:

You've gotten this far in life, without one of the neighborhood bears sweeping you off your feet, and carrying into a syringe-strewn alley for a game of the hide the salami in the gopher hole
 

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"These men are not morbidly obese individuals that never leave the house or have terrible social skills, they are otherwise "normal" tier men"

They're "Normal men", in that they're doing exactly what not just what most males, but most PEOPLE in The Post-Industrial world do throughout their waking hours these days... Binge watching every season of Cobra Kai for the billionth time, f-cking around on Instagram, then bemoaning the fact that they haven't gotten their needs and desires met
Hey, there's got to be a point where you accept the world you grew up in has changed. If you're unwillining to listen to the younger generations without repeatedly bashing everything they say no matter what, then sooner or later they will rightfully exclude you from the conversation.

OP has proved he has already tried the "going outside" and that he doesn't just sit around getting fat binge watching Netflix and video games all day. Maybe it's time to take him seriously when he says that options simply aren't there?
 
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