"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
What are some friendzone signs
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
2) If she uses the word "friend" and you in the same sentence.
3) If she never touches you.
4) If she talks about other guys when she is with you.
5) If she doesn't hold eye contact when she is speaking with you.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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-She doesnt mind showing you ugly physical sides of her
-She makes fun of what you say
-She doesnt consider you able to get women and has no problem telling you
-worse of all,she leads and suggest to do the opposite of what you propose
and in her plans you have a secondary role
Just imagine how a sister deal with her 10yrs old brother,unpleasable to say but usually women don't have a great esteem
of friendzoned friends or orbiters,they seem to fail to see them as men in most of the cases.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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I'll add another one:
If you feel like you're trying everything imaginable to "get her" and its not working, you're a friend.
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Responding well to rapport seeking vocal tonality and getting uncomfortable around neutral tonality(breaking rapport).
It's because she sees you as a girlfriend and then you go getting all sexual and she gets cognitive dissonance from it.
Either that or she'll friendlykino you, like pat you on the shoulder when you touch her butt, kiss you on the cheeck when you do kissclose routine etc.
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That's good, but this is not an exhaustive list. There are many, many signs of friendzone.JPlaya said:
If you would like to know if you are in friendzone with a particular chick, we need more information. We would need some history such as when you met her, what the conversations have been like or about, whether you made any moves on her and how she reacted, etc.
There are several guys on here that are good are figuring that out. Igetit especially comes to mind.
I'm not an expert on this, but have been friendzoned enough times to be able to help.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Whatever this is/was, its not what you want it to be anymore.
But there are things to watch out for. For example, the usually the longer you wait (2 months, 3 months+) your chance slowly diminishes. However this IS NOT an ironclad rule.
If your hanging out or talking to her all the fvcking time and you haven't done anything sexual.
Flaking. Most girls in this universe will never say an outright NO to a guy's face in fear of hurting him. So they do a form of "soft rejection". This is done usually by CONSTANT flaking. Or whenever you try to get alone with her, she is magically with another friend so you two are NEVER alone. Many guys interpret the girl not directly saying NO as she's playing hot and cold when in reality it could be farther from the truth. Everything about her besides words is saying get away from me. That's why we look at actions not words.
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Spot on.vatoloco said:Looks good. But you know what the ultimate, "for sure you're in the FZ" sign is? A LJBF/denial response to closing.
There's only one way to find out for sure, my friend.
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