"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What are some friendzone signs

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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1) If she uses the word "nice" to describe you. "You are nice". "That was nice of you". "You are the nicest guy!"
2) If she uses the word "friend" and you in the same sentence.
3) If she never touches you.
4) If she talks about other guys when she is with you.
5) If she doesn't hold eye contact when she is speaking with you.
 

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Could be fvck buddy, but it's in the middle somewhere.
 

AlexDP

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Buddy's no good. Also, her not teasing you at all is not a good sign.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well she's only called me a buddy like twice, so I hope it ain't bad
 

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she gets uncomfortable or moves away if you get close to her personal space, or try to touch her in a non friendly way.
 

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-She avoids any topic close to sex or intimacy.

-She doesnt mind showing you ugly physical sides of her

-She makes fun of what you say

-She doesnt consider you able to get women and has no problem telling you

-worse of all,she leads and suggest to do the opposite of what you propose
and in her plans you have a secondary role

Just imagine how a sister deal with her 10yrs old brother,unpleasable to say but usually women don't have a great esteem
of friendzoned friends or orbiters,they seem to fail to see them as men in most of the cases.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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This entire thread makes me uncomfortable because its all so true. Everybody's been there and reading this stuff makes me go ooh, ouch, damn, that hurt! :rolleyes:


I'll add another one:

If you feel like you're trying everything imaginable to "get her" and its not working, you're a friend.
 

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Typical sign is:

Responding well to rapport seeking vocal tonality and getting uncomfortable around neutral tonality(breaking rapport).

It's because she sees you as a girlfriend and then you go getting all sexual and she gets cognitive dissonance from it.

Either that or she'll friendlykino you, like pat you on the shoulder when you touch her butt, kiss you on the cheeck when you do kissclose routine etc.
 

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JPlaya said:
So what if I haven't had any of these signs yet?
That's good, but this is not an exhaustive list. There are many, many signs of friendzone.

If you would like to know if you are in friendzone with a particular chick, we need more information. We would need some history such as when you met her, what the conversations have been like or about, whether you made any moves on her and how she reacted, etc.

There are several guys on here that are good are figuring that out. Igetit especially comes to mind.

I'm not an expert on this, but have been friendzoned enough times to be able to help.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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The biggest one of all, I'd say, is you're so unsure that you have to make a thread about it. You probably already know.

Whatever this is/was, its not what you want it to be anymore.
 

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Forty0ztoFreedom said:
The biggest one of all, I'd say, is you're so unsure that you have to make a thread about it. You probably already know.

Whatever this is/was, its not what you want it to be anymore.
Great point. Can't disagree with any of that.
 

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JPlaya said:
So what if I haven't had any of these signs yet?
Looks good. But you know what the ultimate, "for sure you're in the FZ" sign is? A LJBF/denial response to closing.

There's only one way to find out for sure, my friend. ;)
 

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There is no set rule for "friendzones".

But there are things to watch out for. For example, the usually the longer you wait (2 months, 3 months+) your chance slowly diminishes. However this IS NOT an ironclad rule.

If your hanging out or talking to her all the fvcking time and you haven't done anything sexual.

Flaking. Most girls in this universe will never say an outright NO to a guy's face in fear of hurting him. So they do a form of "soft rejection". This is done usually by CONSTANT flaking. Or whenever you try to get alone with her, she is magically with another friend so you two are NEVER alone. Many guys interpret the girl not directly saying NO as she's playing hot and cold when in reality it could be farther from the truth. Everything about her besides words is saying get away from me. That's why we look at actions not words.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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