Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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What am I doing wrong when I approach

Dhoulmagus

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I'll approach them and attempt to talk to them. 99% of the time they leave within 3 minutes with her friends or walks away. The girls I have gotten were at least recipicative and flirty with me. I'm just basing interested girls from my only successful experiences. Either they treat me like c02 or tease.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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foreverAFC

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welcome to the club bro
 

sylvester the cat

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you're approaching so that's good. but what are you saying? post a few examples. also a picture of what you look like would be good.
 

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I'll just walk up to them at parties and do a simple greet. I rarely get past this part because they walk away or something. No interest whatsoever.
 

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that's the way it goes. keep going until you 'pop'.

'popping' is the point of no return. the point when you don't give a f**k if they're interested or not and when you've accepted you'll spend the rest of your life alone. after you've popped is when you'll start getting responses. trust me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Johnny Alias

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Try a new tact. Approach with a wingman that doesn't give a crap. A guy with a wife or girlfriend. Someone who's genuinely funny and can break the ice. That's what friends are for. Women make great wings too.

Also try having friends make introductions. If its at a party odds are someone knows the gal or gals. Women put there guard up big time if they don't know you and unless your game is good enough to disarm it then youre hosed. If they meet you through a mutual friend it takes the defenses down some.

My two cents. Good luck.
 

Starfvcks 64

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I really don't care if a girl doesn't react well when I approach.
She's obviously a lesbian, so whatever.

Parties are completely different than approaching girls in public, and the biggest difference is exactly what you're having problems with:
They go back with their friends, or talk to someone else.

In a public setting, you can just approach, talk for a bit, get her number, and leave because you both have other shlt to do.
For my personality and lifestyle that way always works the best for a number of reasons.

An important thing to remember about parties is that you shouldn't talk to the same girl for too long.
If there's a spark, great. Get a little fire going.
Then go talk to some other girl. Then go back to your "target".
Your target will now see you as more valuable because she saw you talking to that other slvt and wants to have you to herself.
You should be escalating physically at parties too. That's how you speed the process up.

Girls know how the game works, and she expects you to come chasing when she runs back to her friends. Fvck that.
Show her how little you care about her, and suddenly you are a lot more interesting.
 

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Patience, You Must Learn Patience

Dhoulmagus said:
I'll approach them and attempt to talk to them. 99% of the time they leave within 3 minutes with her friends or walks away. The girls I have gotten were at least recipicative and flirty with me. I'm just basing interested girls from my only successful experiences. Either they treat me like c02 or tease.
It's called the "learning curve," and everybody has to through it. Payroll on "American Pimp, the Raw Outakes and the Hard Truth," said (in referring to a hoe that ran off,) said that "a pimp has to go through thousand hoes before you get to that one true prostitute. Right now, I'm on nine hundred and ninety-nine."

The same with you, you have to go through a gang of hoes before you finally get to that one hoe who's trying to eff with you. Until then, you have to stay at it, minimize or (preferably eliminate) the things that are turning women off to you, and play up and improve your strengths.
 
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Maximus Rex said:
It's called the "learning curve," and everybody has to through it. Payroll on "American Pimp, the Raw Outakes and the Hard Truth," said (in referring to a hoe that ran off,) said that "a pimp has to go through thousand hoes before you get to that one true prostitute. Right now, I'm on nine hundred and ninety-nine."

The same with you, you have to go through a gang of hoes before you finally get to that one hoes who's trying to eff with you. Until then, you have to stay at it, minimize or (preferably eliminate) the things that are turning women off to you, and play up and improve your strengths.
This. Trust the process. Keep going. Your next stumbling block will be that you're talking to women for 20-30 minutes but nothing happens. Then you'll realize you need to touch them.
 

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I am going through the same thing but I keep shooting myself in the foot as most times as they show interest but I keep stuffing up by the saying the wrong thing or pissing them off by being too ****y & funny or negging too much.

I remember reading, you have to see yourself as if you're playing a video game where you're the character like Mario trying to get through the end. All these girls are just obstacles. The princess is not some special hoe at the end but its actually yourself. Yes, it's actually yourself, who has changed over time after all the rejections and obstacles. Its actually you, who is now become the Don Juan. The man with plenty of options, whose life has meaning, bla bla bla... But you must go thru this to get there. This is how I see it, so after I get rejected, oops press restart and I am back in again.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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