"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What age of women are best in the sack?

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I'm currently sleeping with 2 hb's. One is 22, enjoys being more on the receiving

end and likes to tell me what to do. It's definitely more quantity with this one! If

I spend an evening with her we end up doing it 2-3 times. The other hb is 30

and is totally a giver. She gets off getting me off but we only do it 2-3 times a

week if we can find time. Just curious what other DJ's prefer, quality or quantity?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I like it all.

Its all about experience, which to me is a good and a bad thing.

Lets say you're nailing a 30 yr old who lets you do whatever you want to her...........usually that means that dozens of other men have also splattered their serum all over her face.

I like the young ones because usually they haven't sucked and fvcked a bucked of d1cks at that point in their lives.
 

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Dear Muffin,
You pose a hard question and one that depends on the mans age and experience....As you grow older you don't want so much frenetic activity but more you want your erotic senses tittillated and you become more discriminating...I differ from King Willy in my need for exclusivity...The thought of making love to callow 22 Year Olds Sends me cold....To reach the levels of expertise I require,a woman needs several things,Intelligence,Experience, physical fitness and a desire to please....lets look at each of these qualities in turn....Intelligence:the ability to learn...also the ability to converse at your level,very difficult when the age gap is great...Experience:well you cant get it all out of books,she needs to have had many many lovers to have learned the little tricks that turned them on...Physical fitness:well what good is experience and intellect without good health.Strength and a supple body are everything!....Now we come to the killer the desire to please:What good that she is Lola Montez if she can't be bothered to get her act together?No she needs to feel she has to perform to keep your interest.So my conclusion,chose a lady about five years younger,who works out,has similar interest and has enjoyed a variety of lovers...
 

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Jesus H. Christ Scaramouche, you post some weird stuff. Are you relatively new here?
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Muffin,
You pose a hard question and one that depends on the mans age and experience....As you grow older you don't want so much frenetic activity but more you want your erotic senses tittillated and you become more discriminating...I differ from King Willy in my need for exclusivity...The thought of making love to callow 22 Year Olds Sends me cold....To reach the levels of expertise I require,a woman needs several things,Intelligence,Experience, physical fitness and a desire to please....lets look at each of these qualities in turn....Intelligence:the ability to learn...also the ability to converse at your level,very difficult when the age gap is great...Experience:well you cant get it all out of books,she needs to have had many many lovers to have learned the little tricks that turned them on...Physical fitness:well what good is experience and intellect without good health.Strength and a supple body are everything!....Now we come to the killer the desire to please:What good that she is Lola Montez if she can't be bothered to get her act together?No she needs to feel she has to perform to keep your interest.So my conclusion,chose a lady about five years younger,who works out,has similar interest and has enjoyed a variety of lovers...
Not to be contentious because your essay is very cogent and makes sense to me, Scaramouche, BUT-

the woman I prefer to spend the most time with, the one I've had many 20 hour marathons with, mostly talking, passionately, silly, seriously, taking 3,4 hour sleep break only to start all over again, is in her 20s. No problem, and it's been this way since we met two years ago.

I love that the only rule is...

that there are no rules.;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Juando said:
Not to be contentious because your essay is very cogent and makes sense to me, Scaramouche, BUT-
I'm always open to the possibility that I'm the one that's crazy but quite frankly i like my odds here.
 

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azanon said:
I'm always open to the possibility that I'm the one that's crazy but quite frankly i like my odds here.
I gotta side with my boy Azanon here. Anyone who starts a post with:

"Dear _____________,"

Has watched Rent and Phantom of the Opera way too many times.
 

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Dear Juando,
Well you are a quite remarkable man....how do you do it?nearly 50% of 50 year olds have given up and you are Americas Marathon Shagger....More strength to your Elbow.....and your little Woman well if they could make shoe leather out of her pride and glory,she would be sitting on a fortune....I jest...seriously she is also remarkable,in my life I never met such a woman...
 

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Dear Azanon,
Crazy....Yeah perhaps but what exactly is normal?The great diagnostic Psychiatrist Roddy Laing was the Superintendant of a Lunatic Asylum in Northern England in the 1950's he decided to address my question by removing the Uniforms and signs of authority from his staff,visiting Prominentes were asked their opinion as to who the most notable lunatics were....the winner by a mile was the second in charge of the establishment...
So my learned friend you have 1761 Posts to your credit...surely you can give Old Muffin some advice...
 

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Dear Karma Sutra,
Well your mate needed assistance locating my join date,you cant even find my name...Take care my friend I am Scaramouche the finest swordsman in all of France....But again 3907 posts and not a word of advice for poor old Muffin...bit of a poseur aren't you?....Karma, hope I am not being too familiar by addressing you thus,I remember telling my old Mum that Elvis had dropped off this mortal coil,she was quite moved and said "What a shame,he was always such a polite boy"perhaps if you lifted your game,maybe stepped across the state line to Tennessee and learned a few manners yourself,you could hang out of some classier birds...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Yo Troops,


I've found that the chicks who have been the best for me sexually didn't have so much to do with their age, per se, but how INTO ME they were. Most of the women who have been REALLY into me have been the younger ones, though.

I'm not sure if it's their enthusiasm of youth, their openness to try and learn new things, or if it's that they are NOT bitter and set in their ways like SOME of the women that are older.

Either way, I cast my preferential vote for YOUNGER women. Besides, you DO know that younger women (AND some older, more fitness conscious women) ARE the most natural forms of "male pleasure enhancement" there IS, don't you?:rockon:
 

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What age are women best in the sack?

Depends on who I am talking to.

If I'm discussing this with a younger woman, my answer is "Women over 30. They really know how to give a guy what he needs".

If I'm talking to an older woman or shooting the sh!t with the guys, I say, "It has been my experience that sex with YOUNGER women is much better than sex with older women."

Seriously though.......I've found that most older women are more secure with themselves, their bodies, and their sexuality. They tend to be "givers", such as the free BJ when it's their time of the month, without even being asked.

Younger women, on the other hand, once you get them to open up they'll ride you hard and put you away wet. And that's how I like it.
 

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What age are women best in the sack?

Depends on who I am talking to.

If I'm discussing this with a younger woman, my answer is "Women over 30. They really know how to give a guy what he needs".

If I'm talking to an older woman or shooting the sh!t with the guys, I say, "It has been my experience that sex with YOUNGER women is much better than sex with older women."

Seriously though.......I've found that most older women are more secure with themselves, their bodies, and their sexuality. They tend to be "givers", such as the free BJ when it's their time of the month, without even being asked.

Younger women, on the other hand, once you get them to open up they'll ride you hard and put you away wet. And that's how I like it.
 

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Hey muffin, I don't think its so much a function of age as it is a function of your personal preference - likes and dislikes; and more importantly THEIR likes and dislikes.

Part of the fun of sex is experimentation, and pushing the envelope, teaching and being taught.

I will say that >>sexual tension up front = >>sexual intensity no matter what age. I love a woman who orgasms; finding the sweet spot and giving multiples. Doesn't matter if she's 25 or 50....

Great site - this is my first post, and I am hoping for many returns. Been reading these posts for about a year now; there in no better advice anywhere on the friggin' web. "First time/Long time".
 

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It should be 50/50 in this category. However, an experienced woman is so RARE in what you proposed. I was 19yrs old and she was 37yrs old and blew me away. At 19, I thought it would happen again and realized the disappointment with women.

You must realized that, all I had to do was lie there and she took control. Through life, your short if you don't get DAVID SHADE book.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I would say any age if the enthusiasm is there. It's never fun when they just lie there and expect you to get them off (which is when they become simple masturbation tools). The ones who chase their own orgasm are the keepers, they put good effort into the whole event, not just wait on you.
 

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STR8UP said:
Seriously though.......I've found that most older women are more secure with themselves, their bodies, and their sexuality. They tend to be "givers", such as the free BJ when it's their time of the month, without even being asked.
How do you think they can even compete with a younger woman? They cannot compete on looks or physical fitness.

So...they have to do other things...if you marry one...then they can switch back. Younger women don't have to switch...what you see is what you get.
 

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Scaramouche said:
But again 3907 posts and not a word of advice for poor old Muffin...bit of a poseur aren't you?....
I'm not prancing around like some fruity ass fairy singing soliloquies while wearing bloomers screaming: "En guard!"

I've helped more boys become men than you could possibly hope for in my 3915 posts.

Me they take seriously. Isn't d'Artagnan looking for his pants and pork sword?
 

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Just for the record Karma, I don't take any guy seriously who has 4000 posts on a discussion forum for how to get laid. Maybe you should stop taking yourself so seriously, too.

And to the OP, wtf kind of handle is "muffin"?
 

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A woman's sexual peak is 35ish (it's 18 for a guy). But this is too hard (pun intended) of a question to answer succinctly. I really believe it is up to you to make a woman good in the sack. She only gets good with experience, so you really don't want them to be THAT good unless its a ONS. Your answer....26.4. Thread closed...lol.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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